Team List Team selection: Round 15 v Port Adelaide

[Thunder Shaker]

It's time to start this thread a bit early.

On Gulden and Papley: Gun Swans on track for return as captain dismisses criticism (afl.com.au)

[UUaswan]

Francis, Lloyd, Hannily, Warner, Bice

Gulden, Paps, Amartey, Roberts, Floreant

Maybe Ladhams for Mclean

JJ tag Rozee

[The Big Cat]

Adams has done another hamstring and out for 4 - 6.

[BRS328]

Adams has done another hamstring and out for 4 - 6.

Sadly the time has come to pay out Adams contract for 2026 and free up space on the list for a young player

[MattW]

How about:

IN: Gulden, Papley, Amartey
OUT: Adams, Hanily, McLean

Sub: Corey Warner

[Thunder Shaker]

Injury list, round 15

[Thunder Shaker]

How about:

IN: Gulden, Papley, Amartey
OUT: Adams, Hanily, McLean

Sub: Corey Warner

Roberts?

[liz]

Francis, Lloyd, Hannily, Warner, Bice

Gulden, Paps, Amartey, Roberts, Floreant

Maybe Ladhams for Mclean

JJ tag Rozee

We'll have to see whether Papley and Gulden come straight back into the senior team or have to spend a week in purgatory first (as Mills and Cunningham did). It may depend on whether they've really done enough work, and whether there's added risk of bringing both straight into the senior team rather than one at a time. If it were just Errol returning I think they'd risk bringing him straight into the senior team but maybe with both they won't. But will they expect just one to play VFL first? Do they bring both in but use one as the sub? (Probably Papley. I can't see Errol sitting on the bench for three quarters.)

If Papley comes back in, Hanily seems a clear out.

Lloyd? Do the coaches see what many of us see? Do they see something else he brings that we don't see? It would be a huge move to 'Florent' him. I'm not sure it will happen.

I don't think Port have a strong second ruck (or they're not playing two genuine rucks). So I think McLean might retain his spot over Ladhams. Especially as it's Port. I'm nervous about Ladhams playing against Port. They know how to get under his skin.

[UUaswan]

I think both injuries are just load based and they would have been put thru the ringer with regard to what they can handle.

A bit different if it's soft tissue.

That aside, Paps and Gulden could do in a 5 mins what some of our bottom end have done week in week out for 2 months

[UUaswan]

Francis, Lloyd, Hannily, Warner, Bice

Gulden, Paps, Amartey, Roberts, Floreant

Maybe Ladhams for Mclean

JJ tag Rozee

Correction Bice the sub, Adams out.

They may not have 2 rucks but they do have 4 tall defenders in Zerk, Burton, Alir and Ratagolea. Might be worth bringing in Ladhams to let Mclean and Amartey keep the talls busy

[MattW]

Roberts?

Ah yes, I forgot about Matt. I assume it'd be for Corey, but Lloyd a possibility.

[The Big Cat]

Has Ladhams recovered from his TBA?

[KSAS]

We'll have to see whether Papley and Gulden come straight back into the senior team or have to spend a week in purgatory first (as Mills and Cunningham did). It may depend on whether they've really done enough work, and whether there's added risk of bringing both straight into the senior team rather than one at a time. If it were just Errol returning I think they'd risk bringing him straight into the senior team but maybe with both they won't. But will they expect just one to play VFL first? Do they bring both in but use one as the sub? (Probably Papley. I can't see Errol sitting on the bench for three quarters.)

If Papley comes back in, Hanily seems a clear out.

Lloyd? Do the coaches see what many of us see? Do they see something else he brings that we don't see? It would be a huge move to 'Florent' him. I'm not sure it will happen.

I don't think Port have a strong second ruck (or they're not playing two genuine rucks). So I think McLean might retain his spot over Ladhams. Especially as it's Port. I'm nervous about Ladhams playing against Port. They know how to get under his skin.

Injury reports had suggested Gulden was a week ahead of Papley. I don't think that's changed, other than Mills being optimistic both might be a chance this week.

Nevertheless, i'm in favour for both to return via the VFL first for the following reasons:

1/ Consistency, as Mills & Cunningham did likewise from long term injuries as mentioned above.

2/ Regain some match fitness and think long term with their recovery (same as rest of the injured list).

3/ Avoid having tip travel first up to Adelaide and make return the following weeks at the SCG, as we have back 2 back home games

4/ There'll be enough changes this week to winning team, with Armatey, Roberts, Florent and perhaps Ladhams & Cleary coming under consideration.

[imuninformedtwo]

I’d actually be cautious about bringing two players off long term injury back at once. You will need to manage their minutes, which places a lot of pressure on everyone else when you have two doing it.

Plus, Paps is a notoriously slow starter after a long break. His position depends so much on elite timing and touch that it makes sense to struggle a bit. Timing that run so precisely to the contest, and then having the clean hands to swoop among the chaos, ain’t easy to do. I’d be inclined to give him one week in reserves.

I also don’t like the idea of starting one as a sub on the assumption it helps manage their minutes. If someone gets injured early, that gets blown out of the water.

As for Adams, I’ll never quite understand that recruiting decision. A 30yo with a growing history of soft tissue injuries was unlikely to end well.

[Roadrunner]

Ah yes, I forgot about Matt. I assume it'd be for Corey, but Lloyd a possibility.

If Roberts comes back in, it should defo be for Lloyd- but our selectors don’t seem to be able to make the tough call. In reality, he shouldn’t have played against the Tigers and it’s sad to see his game falling off a cliff. Surely even an out of form Ollie is better value at the moment.