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  • wolftone57
    Veterans List
    • Aug 2008
    • 5850

    #91
    Originally posted by UUaswan

    Zero chance there were 55 Frees in that first half

    ITo work it out, think you were looking at the wrong column

    We are our own worst enemies with disposal, plain and simple
    No I wasn't. I was looking at the free kick column. I go through the stats very seriously. I know that those stats look stupid but then again only a few weeks ago it was 17-4 against half time and that was real. The Fox Footy commentators commented on it. The AFL have said they will not be posting Free Kick figures. So, maybe someone just made up a figure.

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    • UUaswan
      Regular in the Side
      • Sep 2024
      • 507

      #92
      Originally posted by wolftone57

      No I wasn't. I was looking at the free kick column. I go through the stats very seriously. I know that those stats look stupid but then again only a few weeks ago it was 17-4 against half time and that was real. The Fox Footy commentators commented on it. The AFL have said they will not be posting Free Kick figures. So, maybe someone just made up a figure.
      Im not saying the umps weren't bad but the game was far to free flowing for 55 frees in a half

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      • UUaswan
        Regular in the Side
        • Sep 2024
        • 507

        #93
        We would lead the league in

        Handballs at a teammates feet
        Ground ball fumbles
        Set shot inaccuracy

        If the match committee dont play Pete for the rest of the season they need a look at themselves, Mclean offers nothing when we goes into the ruck and we lose all momentum.

        We need the stat on score while Mclean Rucks, we get smashed

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        • Dow
          Regular in the Side
          • Sep 2022
          • 814

          #94
          Originally posted by wolftone57

          How do you know we won the Free Kick count. The figures on the AFL Website are not the figures. At half time the figures were Dogs 33 Swans 22. But at Full Time the figures were Swans 17 dogs 16. You figure it out I can't. The AFL has said they will not be reporting figures, so are those just an estimate?
          Fair, I was not aware of that, regardless the umpiring wasn’t the reason we lost or why the Bulldogs won

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          • Thunder Shaker
            Aut vincere aut mori
            • Apr 2004
            • 4180

            #95
            Anyone who wants an accurate free kick could could spend some time watching the match replay and counting them.

            It's a furphy to blame free kicks for a narrow loss when Sydney's set shots in front of goal produced a score of 4 goals 10 and a few more that didn't register a score. That's what needs to be fixed. This has two causes - general inaccuracy, and many of the set shots being from difficult places such as close to the boundary near the 50 metre arc.
            "Unbelievable!" -- Nick Davis leaves his mark on the 2005 semi final

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            • SwanSand
              Regular in the Side
              • Aug 2020
              • 525

              #96
              Is it me or is it true that we look like we are defending the handball game a bit better but their talls just got the better of us.
              again their ability to find a player like freijah so low down in the draft was an absolute steal.
              our bottom players are really poor and that’s why we lose. Campbell, mills, McLean were all terrible. Campbell was given a tagging role but he is not the most defensive player to stick with it.

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              • BFG
                On the Rookie List
                • Jan 2025
                • 13

                #97
                I posted before the game that Ladhams should be in for McLean and in the event the latter proved himself a liability whilst Ladhams had another big game in the ressies.

                Can anyone explain what McLean is currently bringing to the game that Ladhams wouldn't easily eclipse if he got selected? Anyone?

                I'll spew if the change isn't made next week, it smacks of Horse's pig headed selection policy of previous seasons.

                We should have won that one, add it to the couple earlier in the year where we dominated the important stats but didn't win.

                We're done for the year now, make use of it to try different things, get a soft 2026 draw and better draft picks in what's shaping as one of the weakest drafts in recent memory.
                Last edited by BFG; 29 June 2025, 08:21 AM.

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                • MattW
                  Veterans List
                  • May 2011
                  • 4206

                  #98
                  Originally posted by BFG
                  I posted before the game that Ladhams should be in for McLean and in the event the latter proved himself a liability whilst Ladhams had another big game in the ressies.

                  Can anyone explain what McLean is currently bringing to the game that Ladhams wouldn't easily eclipse if he got selected? Anyone?

                  I'll spew if the change isn't made next week, it smacks of Horse's pig headed selection policy of previous seasons.

                  We should have one that one, add it to the couple earlier in the year where we dominated the important stats but didn't win.

                  We're done for the year now, make use of it to try different things, get a soft 2026 draw and better draft picks in what's shaping as one of the weakest drafts in recent memory.
                  I wouldn't use the language you did, but agree Ladhams is a better option than McLean and I'd like to see that change.

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                  • UUaswan
                    Regular in the Side
                    • Sep 2024
                    • 507

                    #99
                    Originally posted by MattW

                    I wouldn't use the language you did, but agree Ladhams is a better option than McLean and I'd like to see that change.
                    Agree but it shouldn't necessarily be either or

                    Mclean isn't a Ruck, play him fwd or not at all
                    Wilbur kills it alongside 2 talls

                    If we want to play 2 Rucks, Ladhams is our only option unless they play Green who i suspect isnt ready, we need to think about where Green is at next year as Grundy will be 32 and Ladhams won't hang around for VFL

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                    • stevoswan
                      Veterans List
                      • Sep 2014
                      • 8548

                      On the surface one could think that without Amartey and McCartin.....and then losing Rampe so early, that it was a great performance to be so competitive and yes it was.....but to kick 3.8 from set shots, according to Cox (but 4.10 according to afl.com), this could have been a win for the ages. Bit frustrating but we are definitely on the up now form wise.
                      Got to build on this.....and kick bloody straight!

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                      • dejavoodoo44
                        Veterans List
                        • Apr 2015
                        • 8558

                        Francis has been given a week for his whack to the ribs of Bramble. Plus there were various other fines.

                        MATCH REVIEW: Versatile Swan learns fate over strike - https://www.afl.com.au/news/1352179

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                        • imuninformedtwo
                          Warming the Bench
                          • Aug 2024
                          • 396

                          Originally posted by stevoswan
                          On the surface one could think that without Amartey and McCartin.....and then losing Rampe so early, that it was a great performance to be so competitive and yes it was.....but to kick 3.8 from set shots, according to Cox (but 4.10 according to afl.com), this could have been a win for the ages. Bit frustrating but we are definitely on the up now form wise.
                          Got to build on this.....and kick bloody straight!
                          The other feature of last night that wasn’t great was where and how we turned the ball over. There were the couple of bad kicks from Blakey in the last quarter, but in the second and third, we missed some targets by hand or fumbled in the middle of the ground when in control of the play and got whacked. Mills had a couple of uncharacteristic errors which were costly, the McInerney attempt to toe a ball off the ground was another and there were one or two others. They’re hard to defend given the players were streaming forward and the defence hadn’t had time to set up behind the ball having just worked to clear it.

                          I reckon Cox would have been as frustrated by that as the goal kicking. They were often small margin errors but very costly.

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                          • Thunder Shaker
                            Aut vincere aut mori
                            • Apr 2004
                            • 4180

                            Originally posted by SwanSand
                            Is it me or is it true that we look like we are defending the handball game a bit better but their talls just got the better of us.
                            It wasn't the Bulldogs' talls that won the game for them. It was their better scoring accuracy in front of goal.

                            This has been a recurring theme all season.

                            Games we've lost this year with more scoring shots:
                            Round 6: 10.17 (77) Port Adelaide 13.7 (85) - 8 point loss, 7 more scoring shots.
                            Round 9: 8.15 (63) Essendon 11.5 (71) - 8 point loss, 7 more scoring shots.
                            Round 16: 14.12 (96) Western Bulldogs 16.9 (105) - 9 point loss, 1 more scoring shot.

                            A selection of other games where we've scored more behinds than the opponents:
                            Round 2: 9.14 (68) Fremantle 9.11 (65) - won by 3 behinds.
                            Round 12: 5.11 (41) Adelaide 21.5 (131) - lost by 90 points but we scored more behinds. Accuracy was 31% vs 81% (scoring shots only). Had we scored at a similar accuracy, the score would be 13.3 (81): still a big loss, but only by 50 points.
                            Round 15: 9.17 (71) Port Adelaide 7.10 (52) Won by 19 points (2 goals 7 behinds). This was not either team's finest hour for accuracy this year.

                            (I have omitted other games where we scored more behinds in winning games but the percentage accuracy for both teams was similar: round 4 vs North Melbourne, round 8 vs GWS Giants, round 10 vs Carlton and round 13 vs Richmond. There were also five losses where we scored fewer behinds than the opponents. We have not played any game this year where we won with fewer behinds; last year we had six such wins.)
                            "Unbelievable!" -- Nick Davis leaves his mark on the 2005 semi final

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                            • imuninformedtwo
                              Warming the Bench
                              • Aug 2024
                              • 396

                              Originally posted by dejavoodoo44
                              Francis has been given a week for his whack to the ribs of Bramble. Plus there were various other fines.

                              MATCH REVIEW: Versatile Swan learns fate over strike - https://www.afl.com.au/news/1352179
                              Pretty much guarantees Buller gets another game next week, which he deserved. He didn’t have a massive impact, but he made a batch of contests, brought the ball to ground, and did some nice things. I’d be inclined to choose him over McLean if Amartey comes back, which seems likely with the nine day break.

                              McCartin should be back as well.

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                              • UUaswan
                                Regular in the Side
                                • Sep 2024
                                • 507

                                Originally posted by imuninformedtwo

                                Pretty much guarantees Buller gets another game next week, which he deserved. He didn’t have a massive impact, but he made a batch of contests, brought the ball to ground, and did some nice things. I’d be inclined to choose him over McLean if Amartey comes back, which seems likely with the nine day break.

                                McCartin should be back as well.
                                Buller set shot was a big red flag, looked like a yank that had just been taught the game, terrible

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