Rd 10 vs Pies

[BRS328]

He does not block the final fwd line like amarty does who is often in the same place as Curno..

Perhaps the coaches don’t know what they are doing!!! Armartey is far more mobile than McLean, particularly when the ball hits the ground, and in my opinion reads the play a lot better. Armartey wasn’t great Friday night but conditions played a big part in that for tall forwards in both sides

[Auntie.Gerald]

I think it's time to change the game plan a bit. Other sides know how to shut down our corridor hand ball gamel. We should still go to it, but only when time is right, particularly late in quarters and the opposition lets us do it.

We should revert to our high pressure, more defensive minded game style that was very successful for us in the pat. The turnover game has worked for us before and we should have enough experience and leadership on filed to switch between the 2 styles at the right time. If we want to win a premiership, we will have to learn to do this.

It's been disappointing how little defensive effort and offensive coordination we've been getting from our tall forwards lately. Of course it won't happen, but I would drop Curnow and Amartey for Hamling and Corey Warner for the next game. Both have been good in the reserves.

We are looking down the fun barrel of a big loss unless we change up something. We might as well be proactive.

We definitely did change between our run and carry, to wide and then long over the back through the game

it was pointed out by Cox we left it too late on the field to change it up.

so we do have a plan B and C in attack but we may need to agree on the field when to change gears earlier

[lwjoyner]

He does not block the final fwd line like amarty does who is often in the same place as Curno..

[BRS328]

Its H Mc for amartey can provide at least some support for Brody and more reliable kick for goal and maybe a stronger marker although as i have said before not as spectacular. But what do we want a mark or someone trying to tak a specky. Also maybe Corey W for Lloyd who I feel is also off the pace. Harry C also struggled friday night.

You cannot play Curnow and McLean in the same team. The forward line works because it is open. Cox said exactly this as the reason McLean was omitted. I might add his performance in the VFL against a weakened Collingwood team was not great

[Kafka's Ghost]

Coaches votes for the game. It looks like McRae was less impressed with an honourable loss than Clarkson was.

10 Brodie Grundy (SYD)
8 Nick Blakey (SYD)
5 Nick Daicos (COLL)
4 Isaac Heeney (SYD)
2 Isaac Quaynor (COLL)
1 Justin McInerney (SYD)

No way was Nick Daicos the third most influential player on the ground.

[dejavoodoo44]

Both Grundy and Heeney are on the leader board.

55 Nick Daicos COLL
50 Marcus Bontempelli WB
50 Zak Butters PORT
45 Luke Jackson FRE
44 Brodie Grundy SYD
43 Shai Bolton FRE
43 Bailey Smith GEEL
41 Max Holmes GEEL
39 Max Gawn MELB
39 Isaac Heeney SYD
38 Lachie Neale BL
38 Christian Petracca GCFC

[dejavoodoo44]

Coaches votes for the game. It looks like McRae was less impressed with an honourable loss than Clarkson was.

10 Brodie Grundy (SYD)
8 Nick Blakey (SYD)
5 Nick Daicos (COLL)
4 Isaac Heeney (SYD)
2 Isaac Quaynor (COLL)
1 Justin McInerney (SYD)

[UUaswan]

Good to hear from you Ludwig.

You've raised some good points which others have followed upon.

I just want to add with Kardinia Park being a narrow ground, Chris Scott will able to take the advantage of being able to further strangehold our corridor run and even prevent us going wide. I suspect he will employ a stranglehold team tactic on the Lizard to limit his effectivrness, rather than playing a defensive forward on him.

Cox used the words "adapt" and "mature" when describing on where we need to improve with our game plan in his post match presser.

Some media pundits are questioning whether our forward handball game will hold up in finals.

I take the view it's better to be exposed now and learn, rather than in the finals when it's too late, as we did in the 24 GF.

it will be tough against the Cats this week, but hopefully also pivotal in the long run, even if we don't get the win.

Just a thought but if it is a narrow ground, is there any need to go the corridor?

We normally play well down there.

[KSAS]

I think it's time to change the game plan a bit. Other sides know how to shut down our corridor hand ball gamel. We should still go to it, but only when time is right, particularly late in quarters and the opposition lets us do it.

We should revert to our high pressure, more defensive minded game style that was very successful for us in the pat. The turnover game has worked for us before and we should have enough experience and leadership on filed to switch between the 2 styles at the right time. If we want to win a premiership, we will have to learn to do this.

It's been disappointing how little defensive effort and offensive coordination we've been getting from our tall forwards lately. Of course it won't happen, but I would drop Curnow and Amartey for Hamling and Corey Warner for the next game. Both have been good in the reserves.

We are looking down the fun barrel of a big loss unless we change up something. We might as well be proactive.

Good to hear from you Ludwig.

You've raised some good points which others have followed upon.

I just want to add with Kardinia Park being a narrow ground, Chris Scott will able to take the advantage of being able to further strangehold our corridor run and even prevent us going wide. I suspect he will employ a stranglehold team tactic on the Lizard to limit his effectivrness, rather than playing a defensive forward on him.

Cox used the words "adapt" and "mature" when describing on where we need to improve with our game plan in his post match presser.

Some media pundits are questioning whether our forward handball game will hold up in finals.

I take the view it's better to be exposed now and learn, rather than in the finals when it's too late, as we did in the 24 GF.

it will be tough against the Cats this week, but hopefully also pivotal in the long run, even if we don't get the win.

[lwjoyner]

Its H Mc for amartey can provide at least some support for Brody and more reliable kick for goal and maybe a stronger marker although as i have said before not as spectacular. But what do we want a mark or someone trying to tak a specky. Also maybe Corey W for Lloyd who I feel is also off the pace. Harry C also struggled friday night.

[111431]

I think it's time to change the game plan a bit. Other sides know how to shut down our corridor hand ball gamel. We should still go to it, but only when time is right, particularly late in quarters and the opposition lets us do it.

We should revert to our high pressure, more defensive minded game style that was very successful for us in the pat. The turnover game has worked for us before and we should have enough experience and leadership on filed to switch between the 2 styles at the right time. If we want to win a premiership, we will have to learn to do this.

It's been disappointing how little defensive effort and offensive coordination we've been getting from our tall forwards lately. Of course it won't happen, but I would drop Curnow and Amartey for Hamling and Corey Warner for the next game. Both have been good in the reserves.

We are looking down the fun barrel of a big loss unless we change up something. We might as well be proactive.

I agree 100% and i think Cox knows that it cant work all of the time. We need to have an alternative(s) if the main game isn’t working. Ryan o’keefe made a similar observation when commentating on the Melb game

[UUaswan]

Good comment about the tackles. I feel our pressure has really tailed off in the last few weeks

The uncontested transition thru the midfield by Collingwood was glaring. Good teams will destroy that, if Chris Scott (best at it) pulls us apart next week with game plan, that will be a blueprint for other teams and a reason for us to pivot the way we play.

Best thing last game was when Blakey said the review against Roos was like a loss, at least they appear to be taking the lessons.

And lastly Bice needs to go first option, he holds the ball and takes ground to put himself under pressure when there is no need and play the % when the game is tight, saving a ball that was going out of bounds and tapping the other one clear both to the Pies advantage, absolute brain fades

[Velour&Ruffles]

Earlier in the year we had 92 tackles in a game. We haven't been anywhere near since. Watching the replay it was evident this part of game has dropped away. And I reckon the previous 2 games. There was one passage of play where Edwards had possession running into the midfield and hand passed ahead where a big kick would have landed the ball at around 20 metres out from goal. He is such a booming kick that he should have used it to give our forwards a chance. By the way, Edwards has been a revelation. I thought the delivery to our forwards was pretty ordinary.

I reckon Bice has been very soft in the contest. Seems to be playing bruise free footy. I feel we have genuinely missed Roberts with his long kicks forwared.

What i noticed was when McInerney went in for the centre ball, up we were far better on the centre clearances.

Hopefully we have been in a mini slump but have managed to win.

Good comment about the tackles. I feel our pressure has really tailed off in the last few weeks

[Nico]

I think it's time to change the game plan a bit. Other sides know how to shut down our corridor hand ball gamel. We should still go to it, but only when time is right, particularly late in quarters and the opposition lets us do it.

We should revert to our high pressure, more defensive minded game style that was very successful for us in the pat. The turnover game has worked for us before and we should have enough experience and leadership on filed to switch between the 2 styles at the right time. If we want to win a premiership, we will have to learn to do this.

It's been disappointing how little defensive effort and offensive coordination we've been getting from our tall forwards lately. Of course it won't happen, but I would drop Curnow and Amartey for Hamling and Corey Warner for the next game. Both have been good in the reserves.

We are looking down the fun barrel of a big loss unless we change up something. We might as well be proactive.

Earlier in the year we had 92 tackles in a game. We haven't been anywhere near since. Watching the replay it was evident this part of game has dropped away. And I reckon the previous 2 games. There was one passage of play where Edwards had possession running into the midfield and hand passed ahead where a big kick would have landed the ball at around 20 metres out from goal. He is such a booming kick that he should have used it to give our forwards a chance. By the way, Edwards has been a revelation. I thought the delivery to our forwards was pretty ordinary.

I reckon Bice has been very soft in the contest. Seems to be playing bruise free footy. I feel we have genuinely missed Roberts with his long kicks forwared.

What i noticed was when McInerney went in for the centre ball, up we were far better on the centre clearances.

Hopefully we have been in a mini slump but have managed to win.

[Hotpotato]

It was a very welcome surprise to bag those 4 points.
The Swans will be hunted now and games will be harder
to win .