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  • Go Swannies
    Veterans List
    • Sep 2003
    • 5697

    Umpires v Hawks

    HAWTHORN vs SYDNEY
    #16- Matthew Head (VIC),
    #23- Martin Ellis (VIC),
    #25- Shaun Ryan (VIC)
  • treespirit
    The Tree Is Out There
    • Jan 2003
    • 337

    #2
    I thought we actually had the better of the umpires last night.

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    • goswannie14
      Leadership Group
      • Sep 2005
      • 11166

      #3
      We had a couple of more free kicks than them, but both sides supporters (me included) were having a go at them, that usually means that they have got it just about right.

      But the umpires really need to learn with hoilding the ball, what "prior opportunity" means. A few times, both ways a player was pinged for holding the ball, when they had no prior opportunity what so ever.
      Does God believe in Atheists?

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      • Jeffers1984
        Veterans List
        • Jan 2003
        • 4564

        #4
        Were my eyes deceiving me or was there a stat pop up in the 3rd quarter that said we had the last 5 free kicks?!
        Official Driver Of The "Who Gives A @@@@ As The Player Will Get Delisted Anyway" Bandwagon.

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        • Mike_B
          Peyow Peyow
          • Jan 2003
          • 6267

          #5
          Originally posted by Jeffers1984
          Were my eyes deceiving me or was there a stat pop up in the 3rd quarter that said we had the last 5 free kicks?!
          You saw correctly Jeff.

          I'm on the Chandwagon!!!

          If you cannot compete for the premiership, it's better to be young and exciting than middle-aged and dowdy.

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          • NMWBloods
            Taking Refuge!!
            • Jan 2003
            • 15819

            #6
            Originally posted by goswannie14
            But the umpires really need to learn with hoilding the ball, what "prior opportunity" means. A few times, both ways a player was pinged for holding the ball, when they had no prior opportunity what so ever.
            This rule has become silly now. Both sides were pinged with some ridiculous HTB decisions.
            Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

            "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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            • timbo
              On the Rookie List
              • Aug 2003
              • 344

              #7
              Yeah the holding the ball decisions were pretty ordinary, but importanty they were consistent.

              The one mickey o got on joel smith was a bit ordinary as he was clearly holding the ball in and then it did pop out.

              There were also two times in the second half when croad and soull both got slung to the ground and had prior opporunity but were given too much time to get rid of it, while in the first quarter roberts thompson got pinged for the same.
              Onwards to Victory!

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              • Slick Swans
                On the Rookie List
                • May 2003
                • 207

                #8
                I thought the umpiring wasn't too bad, unbiased, which is the main thing. But the holding the ball decisions were pathetic all night, Luke Ablett barely touched the thing before he was caught and penalised.
                "Red and White for blood cells, Red and White for wine."
                "They could be the whole damn spectrum, if you just damn let them"

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                • giant
                  Veterans List
                  • Mar 2005
                  • 4731

                  #9
                  Originally posted by NMWBloods
                  This rule has become silly now. Both sides were pinged with some ridiculous HTB decisions.
                  Absolutely agree!!! If they were in fact the correct interpretation then that is very bad news for the game. In all cases, the bloke making the play & most desperate for the footy was murdered by the player standing off.

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                  • stellation
                    scott names the planets
                    • Sep 2003
                    • 9721

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Slick Swans
                    I thought the umpiring wasn't too bad, unbiased, which is the main thing. But the holding the ball decisions were pathetic all night, Luke Ablett barely touched the thing before he was caught and penalised.
                    Prompting the query (I believe from Alistair Lynch?) "who'd want to chase a loose footy?"*.

                    *Probably nowhere near what was actually said, but the sentiment is the same.
                    I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
                    We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

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                    • Sanecow
                      Suspended by the MRP
                      • Mar 2003
                      • 6917

                      #11
                      Hawks were pretty badly done by this week, IMHO.

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                      • ScottH
                        It's Goodes to cheer!!
                        • Sep 2003
                        • 23665

                        #12
                        I never knew that the umps carried a spare whistle in a little sack sewn in the front of their shorts. I guess it keeps it warm.

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                        • SimonH
                          Salt future's rising
                          • Aug 2004
                          • 1647

                          #13
                          Poor umpiring. The mystifying HTB decisions appeared to be based on how loudly the fans were yelling for HTB as much as anything. Also, inconsistency regarding when carrying a player forward in the tackle amounts to a push in the back. Plus my pet hate: frees for ruck infringements, for doing exactly what every ruckman does at every ball-up, merely because the opposition ruckman throws himself forward/to the ground.

                          That said, the poor decisions favoured Sydney more than the Hawks. A particularly blatant push-in-the-back not paid against MOL led to a Sydney goal in the 3rd.

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                          • SMFC
                            On the Rookie List
                            • Apr 2006
                            • 104

                            #14
                            I would've said that hit on Barry Hall that knocked the stuffing out of him was a charge.

                            Let's imagine Hall made the same hit on some poor player, something like that hack Maguire.... 3 weeks for an early plea?


                            Go South!
                            Go Bloods!

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                            • mocaholic
                              Regular in the Side
                              • Oct 2003
                              • 575

                              #15
                              Caught up with my Hawk mate at half time (couple of good wins in the tab in M8, too, btw) and he was in agreement that up until then the Hawks had had a very kind run with the men in light lime green.

                              Evened out later but they weren't flash all night. Couple of those 50's were dodgy...perhaps that's the new rule but there's got to be a contest!
                              Insert Your Life [HERE]

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