Kangaroos fan accident

[Provost]

Originally posted by TheHood
His death should not be linked to his death in any kind of direct way at all.

Come again?

[Tuesday]

It's simply a coincidence.

Laidley had every right to exchange words with the bloke. It would not surprise me in the least if the AFL makes it an offence for coaches to speak with members of the public.

The fan in question had issues and Laidley had every right to comment. The guy killed himeself. Yes, it's terrible for those who were close to the bloke, but I also think Laidley has been unfairly connected and treated by the club and its supporters.

[BonBon]

Originally posted by Provost
Come again?

Lmao.

[The Undertaker]

Tragic news.

[TheHood]

Originally posted by Provost
Come again?

Now that is hilarious, "Dean", all but a few letters out. My typing is in no way directly related to my brain!

[Agent 86]

Is it just me, or is the heading for this article ambiguous?

[goswannie14]

Originally posted by Agent 86
Is it just me, or is the heading for this article ambiguous?

Aren't most headlines when the editor wants to show how smart he/she is.

[573v30]

Originally posted by Agent 86
Is it just me, or is the heading for this article ambiguous?

They obviously haven't heard of commas before...

[Tuesday]

That was not the headder the article was originally transmitted with.

[CureTheSane]

This is all a load of crap.

Laidley did what any reasonable person would have done if someone unloaded on them.
In fact he handled it better than most would have.

This bloke was obviously disturbed, and HE set himself off on the road to suicide by initiating that conversation.

Did it contribute to his decision to end his life?

Probably.
Probably set him over the edge, especially with the anticipation of the media scrutiny that would have unfolded.

In the end he broke the law in committing suicide, and endangered the lives of people in the process.

[Bear]

Originally posted by CureTheSane
This is all a load of crap.

Laidley did what any reasonable person would have done if someone unloaded on them.
In fact he handled it better than most would have.

This bloke was obviously disturbed, and HE set himself off on the road to suicide by initiating that conversation.

Did it contribute to his decision to end his life?

Probably.
Probably set him over the edge, especially with the anticipation of the media scrutiny that would have unfolded.

In the end he broke the law in committing suicide, and endangered the lives of people in the process.

I agree with most of this, except the "unloaded" bit. A passing comment is hardly unloading.

Also, Laidley has a far higher responsibility than the average person, and hence he cannot be compared to what "any reasonable person" would/should/could have done. You can only compare his actions to those of other AFL coaches who face the same situation. I.e. compare apples with apples please.

He actually handled it far worse than others (AFL coaches), because it happens to them every week, and 99/100 times they don't stop and confront the fan(s).

A poor decision by Laidley that unfortunately could well haunt him for the rest of his life.

[ugg]

If you believe what you read in the papers, the comments were fairly mild and weren't about Laidley personally, but rather the performance of the team.

[CureTheSane]

Fair enough.

Unfortunately, we are all only able to form opinions on what we read in the papers and see on TV and how we percieve this.

I read in the Herald Sun that a supporter close by described what was said by the suicide dude and that his comments to the paper had to be 'cleaned up'
ie: the swearing omitted.

From this I assumed that there had been a mouthing off.

Either way, comments were directed at Laidley, I personally think that he has the right to reply or argue or whatever unless the club his employers) deem this to be inappropriate and silence him with all supporters.
I get a bit sick of the whole sportsmen/coaches/anyone in any public eye should live their life like angels and bite their tongues and basically be someone they really aren't simply because of political correctness.

[Bear]

Originally posted by CureTheSane
Fair enough.

I get a bit sick of the whole sportsmen/coaches/anyone in any public eye should live their life like angels and bite their tongues and basically be someone they really aren't simply because of political correctness.

For me political correctness doesn't come in to it.

I'm coming from the angle of professionalism ad responsibility. In this case, maintaining self control and showing leadership in trying circumstances.

[goswannie14]

Originally posted by CureTheSane
In the end he broke the law in committing suicide, and endangered the lives of people in the process.

A few problems with this comment. It's not illegal to commit suicide, or even attempt suicide. If he jumped in front of a train, then he didn't endanger anyones life except his own (if he did it in a car or truck that would be a different matter). Finally, if he did jump in front of a train, why wasn't it reported by the train driver?