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    #16
    Originally posted by dawson
    No psstake.

    Take it you're not a religious person or believe in a higher being then.
    I take it you have entirely misunderstood the concept of karma, and have rather inappropriately applied it to football.

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    • dawson
      Senior Player
      • Mar 2003
      • 1007

      #17
      Originally posted by eirinn
      I take it you have entirely misunderstood the concept of karma, and have rather inappropriately applied it to football.
      Actually not at all.

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      • dendol
        fat-arsed midfielder
        • Oct 2003
        • 1483

        #18
        Originally posted by dawson
        You think the team wins its first final in Melbourne in 70 something years and wins three finals (in the same finals series) in a row for the first time ever just by chance?
        I had to sacrifice my pet budgie and then fast and meditate for 7 days straight for the Swans to win the flag last year.

        The finals wins in Melbourne had nothing to do with the players or coach Roos. It was karma and me that did it.

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        • NMWBloods
          Taking Refuge!!
          • Jan 2003
          • 15819

          #19
          Originally posted by dawson
          Actually not at all.
          Um... yes - completely and utterly.
          Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

          "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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          • NMWBloods
            Taking Refuge!!
            • Jan 2003
            • 15819

            #20
            Originally posted by dendol
            I had to sacrifice my pet budgie and then fast and meditate for 7 days straight for the Swans to win the flag last year.

            The finals wins in Melbourne had nothing to do with the players or coach Roos. It was karma and me that did it.
            Oh bugger - are you telling me I sacrificed 3 virgins and a goat for nothing?!?
            Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

            "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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            • dawson
              Senior Player
              • Mar 2003
              • 1007

              #21
              Originally posted by NMWBloods
              Um... yes - completely and utterly.
              So then we agree to disagree.

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              • NMWBloods
                Taking Refuge!!
                • Jan 2003
                • 15819

                #22
                Originally posted by dawson
                So then we agree to disagree.
                No - you simply misunderstand the concept of karma and are applying it erroneously to football.

                Definition - The total effect of a person's actions and conduct during the successive phases of the person's existence, regarded as determining the person's destiny.

                It doesn't mean that because we lost some earlier games, whether by poor play or poor umpiring, we were due some luck to even it all out and that's why we won later games.

                Similarly, because we played better in the PF doesn't mean the world order evens things out and gives StKilda the win last night because of karma.
                Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

                "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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                • dawson
                  Senior Player
                  • Mar 2003
                  • 1007

                  #23
                  Originally posted by NMWBloods
                  No - you simply misunderstand the concept of karma and are applying it erroneously to football.

                  Definition - The total effect of a person's actions and conduct during the successive phases of the person's existence, regarded as determining the person's destiny.

                  It doesn't mean that because we lost some earlier games, whether by poor play or poor umpiring, we were due some luck to even it all out and that's why we won later games.

                  Similarly, because we played better in the PF doesn't mean the world order evens things out and gives StKilda the win last night because of karma.
                  How do you know things aren't meant to even out?

                  Many times this game is decided by the bounce of the ball and what determines that?

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                  • Big Al
                    Veterans List
                    • Feb 2005
                    • 7007

                    #24
                    Originally posted by NMWBloods
                    Oh bugger - are you telling me I sacrificed 3 virgins and a goat for nothing?!?
                    Bloods, where in the hell did you find 3 virgins?
                    ..And the Swans are the Premiers...The Ultimate Team...The Ultimate Warriors. They have overcome the highly fancied Hawks in brilliant style. Sydney the 2012 Premiers - Gerard Whately ABC

                    Here it is Again! - Huddo SEN

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                    • NMWBloods
                      Taking Refuge!!
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 15819

                      #25
                      Originally posted by dawson
                      How do you know things aren't meant to even out?
                      How do you know they are?

                      On the basis we don't know I just assume things happen as they do. There is no evidence at all to suggest otherwise.
                      Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

                      "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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                      • NMWBloods
                        Taking Refuge!!
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 15819

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Big Al
                        Bloods, where in the hell did you find 3 virgins?
                        Meh - nothing to write home about. Went to the Richmond cheer squad and promised some fuglies a free carton of donuts and a philosophical discussion with Matthew Richardson.
                        Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

                        "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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                        • Go Swannies
                          Veterans List
                          • Sep 2003
                          • 5697

                          #27
                          Originally posted by NMWBloods
                          WTF!?!? Is this a psstake? It has nothing to do with karma!
                          Of course it doesn't. Doesn't he play for the Blues? Been injured a lot in recent years so wouldn't be much use even if he did play for us.

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                          • Big Al
                            Veterans List
                            • Feb 2005
                            • 7007

                            #28
                            Originally posted by dawson
                            How do you know things aren't meant to even out?

                            Many times this game is decided by the bounce of the ball and what determines that?
                            Bounce of the ball is determined by:

                            1/ Amount of force exerted to the ball
                            2/ The angle the ball contacts the surface
                            3/ Weight of the ball.
                            4/ Condition of the surface.

                            Karma doesn't seem to have anything to do with it.
                            ..And the Swans are the Premiers...The Ultimate Team...The Ultimate Warriors. They have overcome the highly fancied Hawks in brilliant style. Sydney the 2012 Premiers - Gerard Whately ABC

                            Here it is Again! - Huddo SEN

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                            • dawson
                              Senior Player
                              • Mar 2003
                              • 1007

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Big Al
                              Bounce of the ball is determined by:

                              1/ Amount of force exerted to the ball
                              2/ The angle the ball contacts the surface
                              3/ Weight of the ball.
                              4/ Condition of the surface.

                              Karma doesn't seem to have anything to do with it.
                              Bounce of the ball is a metapohorical reference which is why I put it in italics.

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                              • dawson
                                Senior Player
                                • Mar 2003
                                • 1007

                                #30
                                Originally posted by NMWBloods
                                How do you know they are?

                                On the basis we don't know I just assume things happen as they do. There is no evidence at all to suggest otherwise.
                                Is life a bunch of random events or is there some reason to it all?

                                While we may have free choice to do as we please, does God (whatever your definition of him/her/it) not already know what we will do?

                                You don't think people make bets with God during and before games? "If you let us win this, then ......................."

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