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[ScottH]

Moore had a few good touches, some quick hands in the last q. Seemed to do a lot of chasing. Got crunched a few times.

Vogels kicked a nice goal. Seemed to do a lot of chasing. Got crunched a few times.

Bevan was OK. Read the play well, took some good marks in defence. Got quite a few touches. Seemed to do well on Headland, and just as well on Farmer.

Bevan 3.
Vogels 2.
Moore 1.

[satchmopugdog]

Are those your TLM votes?

[ScottH]

Originally posted by satchmopugdog
Are those your TLM votes?

Newbie Votes. Bevan wasn't that good.

[C-Train]

Luke has earnt a spot for next week...

[ugg]

All provided something tonight, excellent to see. Anyone know how the oldies (Mathews, Teddy and Torture) went?

[elroy67]

I'm not sure what role Dempster plays in the side, but surely his position must go to Malceski when he is available.

[CureTheSane]

Thought Moore was weak at times tonight.

Didn't chase hard enough for my liking.

Better get used to the pace of the seniors quickly.....

[wyatt]

Originally posted by CureTheSane
Thought Moore was weak at times tonight.

Didn't chase hard enough for my liking.

Better get used to the pace of the seniors quickly.....

Small forward is one of the most difficult positions to play on the ground. I thought Moore was pretty good at getting to the the right place a number of times. He didn't handle the ball as cleanly as he would've liked, but it will take more than 40 minutes (?) of senior football to get accustomed to the speed.

I also thought Vogels was very servicable - held up his end whether as a forward or a back. Significant improvement over Ted.

[Roscoe]

CTS you are kidding about Moore - he had a hand in a couple of goals with his assists. He is a mid fielder who was playing out of position

Must be retained for next week and beyond

[Grant]

All 3 deserve to stay for next week.All did much better than the guys they replaced.Even LRT did better in the ruck than Torture.

[CureTheSane]

Originally posted by Roscoe
CTS you are kidding about Moore - he had a hand in a couple of goals with his assists. He is a mid fielder who was playing out of position

Must be retained for next week and beyond

Yep, I was harsh.
He did ok.

[BigBadBarryNo1]

Bevan really made up for the downtime that Mathews created.

Moore made a flying tackle and aggression on the HF wing and is really starting to show his class. I suspect he didn't get into the heart of the action more so because he was placed into a position to make leads for a FF movement. He really played some smart and fast footy.

Vogels is fighting fit and ready for action. His legspeed and tackling has really improved.

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Although I've been worried about Kirk / Bolton in the clearances for some time now, I really think that LRT made up for that in doing a "Goodesy-style ruck / rover" clearance in the 3rd quarter. It allowed Goodesy to run around the ground too. Certainly the losses in the clearances made Dockers get into the ruck and stop their stupid flooding which was stuffing up our kicking. Add on the fact that our forwards stopped playing around with the ball inside 50m arc by the 4th quarter we figured out a way to crack it back.

Crows and Eagles of course will be an entirely different story....

[Legs Akimbo]

Moore demonstrated more skill than Matthews, being pivotal in a couple of goals with defts hands in tight situations. I think we'll be seeing a lot more of those quick hands in future years and would love to see him given more responsibility

Bevan showed he has focus and stamina to hold a good player in check. Something Mathews has failed to do for a while. Aside from one glaring mistake under a lot of pressure, his disposal was much much better than Mathews as well.

Vogels looked a little lost early, but his goal and some of his assists demonstrate that he has considerably more skill than Ted Richards and makes better decisions under pressure. He's the sort of player that is nice to have around because he can plug different holes.

I guess when Crouch comes back, probably Moore will drop out, which is a shame. As for Mathews, well I think he should be considering life after football. Trade value?

I think there is hope for Ted Richards yet, but it is interesting that exactly the same thing as happened at Essendon has transpired at the Swans (wants to play as a forward, plays most time as a defender, ends up in the reserves). I am struggling to think of a role for him other than as third tall defender.

Chambers, the less said about that debacle the better. LRT showed last night that Roos' experiment in blind optimism was misguided. Nice try but no cigar.

I like Dempster. I think his main issue is that he doesn't get enough of the ball, but he is a good tagger. Like others before him, I am sure his ongoing development will lead to greater ballwinning ability. When he runs forward and kicks long, he is the the much lauded '80m player'.

[swannieserin]

Originally posted by ugg
All provided something tonight, excellent to see. Anyone know how the oldies (Mathews, Teddy and Torture) went?

Yes, as promised I was there for reserves. They played half and half (ie, both teams were half Swans, half SFL dev team). It was quite confusing at times.

Ted was the best by FAR in the game, IMO. Not only did he take control of the game (particularly in the 4th quarter), but he was relaying instructions to everybody, almost like a captain/coach. He played FF for the final quarter, and spent the downtime giving instructions to the kid playing FB on him about how to defend.

Chambers rucked against Shaw. I didn't notice a standout performance by either of them.

Mathews did all the things that he does in Seniors ... in the reserves. Turnovers and the like. He kicked a goal and lined it up beautifully, otherwise he was fairly woeful. He was tagging/being tagged by Schmidt.

Ted should be playing seniors. He was too good for that.

[NMWBloods]

This description of reserves is a major worry. Very tough to develop players in a virtual training run.