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  • liz
    Veteran
    Site Admin
    • Jan 2003
    • 16770

    Magic says we'll get smacked

    At least one of the senior players is under no illusions as to where the team is, despite the Freo win. 'Spose we should take some reassurance from that...

  • SimonH
    Salt future's rising
    • Aug 2004
    • 1647

    #2
    Played smart footy Saturday, and also analyses the game pretty smartly.

    Micky sez, "(Adelaide and West Coast) are the best teams in the competition at the moment."

    In fact, the question at the moment is, 'Who is the 3rd best team in the comp?', because daylight is 2nd after Adelaide.

    Has there ever been a team that has had a percentage 47% better than the 2nd-ranked team, this deep into a season? I doubt it. The team that most overwhelmingly dominated the competition in recent memory-- the Essendon team of 2000-- had 'only' 28% on the second-ranked team after R13 in that year. Compared with that overhyped team, Adelaide have flown under the radar somewhat because their 2 early losses and WCE's winning run meant they didn't get to the top of the table until recently.

    As an all-round unit, they are better than the St Kilda team that came here in round 11, 2004 (which was the last time we played a home game against a team widely considered near-unbeatable). Man-for-man, they are clearly inferior in talent to that St Kilda team, but are so much better drilled and mentally stronger it's not funny. Their mammoth wins aren't the Sydney 1980s wins of a team of champions playing Harlem Globetrotters show-off football against a dispirited opposition; they're the wins of an extraordinarily disciplined team that never relaxes or starts lairising, even when they're 10 goals up.

    There could be no possible better indication of how we are really placed than this week's game. While, based on form to date, Sydney aren't on the same planet as Adelaide, they have a happy history in recent years of rising to a challenge against the absolute best teams. I can hardly wait!

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    • ScottH
      It's Goodes to cheer!!
      • Sep 2003
      • 23665

      #3
      Originally posted by SimonH
      Micky sez, "(Adelaide and West Coast) are the best teams in the competition at the moment."
      West Coast were the bst team in the Comp last year too. (For atl east 3/4 of the season anyway )

      Haven't ween WC play for a while, but adelaide were relentless against the cats yesterday. The goals the cats did get, they worked damned hard for. Whereas the Crows made everything look easy. Had plenty of runners.

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      • TheHood
        On the Rookie List
        • Jan 2003
        • 1938

        #4
        Originally posted by ScottH
        Whereas the Crows made everything look easy. Had plenty of runners.
        It's amazing how hard your can run and how well you can execute your skills when you're the fittest team in the comp.

        Lots of nice little things follow too, like accurate kicking for goal, team play, easily covering for team mates, hemming the ball in the F50 e.t.c. (all sounds too familiar doesn't it?).
        The Pain of Discipline is Nothing Like The Pain of Disappointment

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        • ScottH
          It's Goodes to cheer!!
          • Sep 2003
          • 23665

          #5
          Originally posted by TheHood
          like accurate kicking for goal,
          They weren't that accurate. 21.21 a lot of shots there they should've got.

          But I'll take 21.21 any day.

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          • swantastic
            Veterans List
            • Jan 2006
            • 7275

            #6
            Originally posted by TheHood
            It's amazing how hard your can run and how well you can execute your skills when you're the fittest team in the comp.

            Lots of nice little things follow too, like accurate kicking for goal, team play, easily covering for team mates, hemming the ball in the F50 e.t.c. (all sounds too familiar doesn't it?).
            They should have beat cats by 150 points that is not very good kicking at goal.50/50 is just not good enough.
            Now this is a thread that i would expect on the ego -centric, wank session that is redandwhiteonline.com...

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            • NMWBloods
              Taking Refuge!!
              • Jan 2003
              • 15819

              #7
              Originally posted by SimonH
              Has there ever been a team that has had a percentage 47% better than the 2nd-ranked team, this deep into a season? I doubt it. The team that most overwhelmingly dominated the competition in recent memory-- the Essendon team of 2000-- had 'only' 28% on the second-ranked team after R13 in that year. Compared with that overhyped team, Adelaide have flown under the radar somewhat because their 2 early losses and WCE's winning run meant they didn't get to the top of the table until recently.
              I hardly think Essendon 2000 were overhyped. They were 13-0 at this stage. Adelaide are 4 points ahead of 2nd and 8 points ahead of 3rd, 4th and 5th. Essendon were 12 points ahead of 2nd and 18 points ahead of 3rd! Also Essendon finished the season on 159% - we'll see if Adelaide can do that.

              There could be no possible better indication of how we are really placed than this week's game. While, based on form to date, Sydney aren't on the same planet as Adelaide, they have a happy history in recent years of rising to a challenge against the absolute best teams. I can hardly wait!
              Yes it will be fascinating to see which Sydney team turns up this week. Surely match of the round and the potential to be match of the season in terms of contenders.
              Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

              "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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              • swantastic
                Veterans List
                • Jan 2006
                • 7275

                #8
                Originally posted by NMWBloods
                I hardly think Essendon 2000 were overhyped. They were 13-0 at this stage. Adelaide are 4 points ahead of 2nd and 8 points ahead of 3rd, 4th and 5th. Essendon were 12 points ahead of 2nd and 18 points ahead of 3rd! Also Essendon finished the season on 159% - we'll see if Adelaide can do that.

                Yes it will be fascinating to see which Sydney team turns up this week. Surely match of the round and the potential to be match of the season in terms of contenders.
                The melbourne madia picking two interstate teams for game of the round,id like to see that.The melb media will pick mtr saints v pies mark my words.
                Now this is a thread that i would expect on the ego -centric, wank session that is redandwhiteonline.com...

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                • Rizzo
                  On the Rookie List
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 655

                  #9
                  Roosy doesn't agree with Mick.



                  I do. While we played somewhat better in the 2nd and 3rd quarters if it doesn't show on the scoreboard against the Crows we'll be red raw.

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                  • elroy67
                    Parking Cars
                    • Mar 2005
                    • 419

                    #10
                    Originally posted by NMWBloods
                    I hardly think Essendon 2000 were overhyped.
                    Agree. Probably underperformed at a time where they shoud have won 3 flags in row.
                    We demand rigidly defined areas of doubt and uncertainty.

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                    • SimonH
                      Salt future's rising
                      • Aug 2004
                      • 1647

                      #11
                      Originally posted by elroy67
                      Agree. Probably underperformed at a time where they shoud have won 3 flags in row.
                      That was probably the sense in which I used the word 'overhyped'. There was a lot of media nonsense about 'is this the greatest team of all time?' etc going into the 2001 H&A season, whereas obviously that type of thing should be measured by premierships. Now, they're just looked back on as should-have-beens.

                      By way of contrast, the treatment of the Blions by the Melbourne media was relatively unenthusiastic until they won the 3rd in a row in 2003. Only then did they start getting substantial 'greatest team for decades' accolades.

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                      • elroy67
                        Parking Cars
                        • Mar 2005
                        • 419

                        #12
                        Originally posted by SimonH
                        That was probably the sense in which I used the word 'overhyped'. There was a lot of media nonsense about 'is this the greatest team of all time?' etc going into the 2001 H&A season, whereas obviously that type of thing should be measured by premierships. Now, they're just looked back on as should-have-beens.
                        Yes, Essendon certainly got a better deal from the media than Port did with regards to being under-achievers.
                        We demand rigidly defined areas of doubt and uncertainty.

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                        • goswannie14
                          Leadership Group
                          • Sep 2005
                          • 11166

                          #13
                          Originally posted by swantastic
                          They should have beat cats by 150 points that is not very good kicking at goal.50/50 is just not good enough.
                          It is when you have over 40 shots at goal.
                          Does God believe in Atheists?

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