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  • goswannie14
    Leadership Group
    • Sep 2005
    • 11166

    #16
    I thought he was servicable and promising. I think he may have also had more possessions in 1 game than Chambers did in all his games this year.
    Does God believe in Atheists?

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    • giant
      Veterans List
      • Mar 2005
      • 4731

      #17
      I thought it was a very useful first up effort - lovely tap to McV in Q4 was almost Ballesque!

      Huge improvement on Torture already.

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      • Mike_B
        Peyow Peyow
        • Jan 2003
        • 6267

        #18
        Good to see him back out there and unscathed. We will need 2 ruckmen going into the finals and having Doyle out there as backup ruckman is our best option.

        For the stats minded, he also had more possessions than Jolly!

        I'm on the Chandwagon!!!

        If you cannot compete for the premiership, it's better to be young and exciting than middle-aged and dowdy.

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        • SimonH
          Salt future's rising
          • Aug 2004
          • 1647

          #19
          Has a penetrating kick, too, which is a turn-up because subconsciously you think whenever you see the ball in a ruckman's hands, "This won't go longer than 40 metres."

          Only the second game ever (and the first full game) where Doyle has been in the same side as Jolly. Was I the only one wishing there was more difference in their numbers (15/16)? Is number 11 still free?

          Geez, having 2 guys in the team who can actually ruck makes a difference. See, for example: season 2005.

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          • melbloods78
            On the Rookie List
            • Jul 2006
            • 83

            #20
            looks much better prospect than chambers or having richards and LRT ruck. I pulled out a vid from 2000 to watch over dinner tonight and he was playing in that game!!!

            for someone on the sidelines for so long he hasn't done much work on his upper body comparing his frame to 2000
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            • ScottH
              It's Goodes to cheer!!
              • Sep 2003
              • 23665

              #21
              Originally posted by Mike_B
              For the stats minded, he also had more possessions than Jolly!
              Thats never hard!!

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              • goswannie14
                Leadership Group
                • Sep 2005
                • 11166

                #22
                Originally posted by melbloods78
                looks much better prospect than chambers or having richards and LRT ruck. I pulled out a vid from 2000 to watch over dinner tonight and he was playing in that game!!!

                for someone on the sidelines for so long he hasn't done much work on his upper body comparing his frame to 2000
                He looks like an old fashioned ruckman, really tall and solid. Sort of man mountain type.
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                • Ruck'n'Roll
                  Ego alta, ergo ictus
                  • Nov 2003
                  • 3990

                  #23
                  Is Donk, Is Good!

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                  • Danzar
                    I'm doing ok right now, thanks
                    • Jun 2006
                    • 2027

                    #24
                    Good performance although I had my doubts in the first quarter. When he came on the Dees seemed to get the better of us and looked dangerous. Roos took him off pretty quickly, whioch then settled the game.

                    Pretty good after that. Will reserve judgment until next week I think.
                    Captain, I am detecting large quantities of win in this sector

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                    • barry
                      Veterans List
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 8499

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Danzar
                      Good performance although I had my doubts in the first quarter. When he came on the Dees seemed to get the better of us and looked dangerous. Roos took him off pretty quickly, whioch then settled the game.

                      Pretty good after that. Will reserve judgment until next week I think.
                      Yeah he seemed quite tentative in the first bounce, but by the last quarter he was flying.

                      I guess I wasnt the only one cringing with fear when he went for that fly in the forward line. Dont get too far off the ground Doyley!

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                      • Danzar
                        I'm doing ok right now, thanks
                        • Jun 2006
                        • 2027

                        #26
                        Originally posted by barry
                        Yeah he seemed quite tentative in the first bounce, but by the last quarter he was flying.

                        I guess I wasnt the only one cringing with fear when he went for that fly in the forward line. Dont get too far off the ground Doyley!
                        Makes you wonder whether the view on Spida will change if Doyle settles in by season-end.

                        You can't have three ruckmen, you can't demote Doyle if he's playing well and I think that a good part of Jolly's improvement is due to the looming Spida issue......
                        Captain, I am detecting large quantities of win in this sector

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                        • Ruck'n'Roll
                          Ego alta, ergo ictus
                          • Nov 2003
                          • 3990

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Danzar
                          Makes you wonder whether the view on Spida will change if Doyle settles in by season-end.
                          Makes you wonder whetgher Spida talk may have given Jolly a little extra impetus over the last few weeks.

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                          • barry
                            Veterans List
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 8499

                            #28
                            Another question is, how many games will Doyle have to play this year to get his contract extended ?

                            3, 4, all season ?

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                            • SimonH
                              Salt future's rising
                              • Aug 2004
                              • 1647

                              #29
                              Originally posted by barry
                              Another question is, how many games will Doyle have to play this year to get his contract extended ?

                              3, 4, all season ?
                              Therein lies the problem. To say that it would be bastard-like to play Doyle for the rest of the year (if a miracle occurs and he remains fit), and then delist him, would be an understatement. I can understand the utilitarian (i.e. bastard) 'use 'em and throw 'em away' mentality, but if Sydney had written Doyley off, it should have just bitten the bullet and played Chambers/Richards/Shaw/whoever for the rest of the year. He must still have a good chance of being on the 2007 'wanted list' if he can turn it on, and stay on his feet, in the remaining games.

                              Barry Hall's interview (sorry: too lazy to do link) where he said by way of promoting the Spida deal, 'We definitely need to bring in a ruckman at the end of the year; you can't make it with just one ruckman', was just bizarre. We've got five specialist ruckmen on our list, plus a couple of other 195cm+ kids in the rookies! How do you reckon all of them (apart from Jolly) would feel when they read a senior player saying that?

                              Offering Doyle as part of a trade (presumably for Spida) is another question entirely. Anyone is potentially tradeable if you think you'll get greater value incoming than outgoing. Perhaps a worthy poll question come the end of the finals: Doyle or Spida?

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                              • swantastic
                                Veterans List
                                • Jan 2006
                                • 7275

                                #30
                                Doyles stats / Jolly stats
                                Kicks=3/ 4
                                HB=3 / 1
                                Out of D50=0 / 0
                                Into F50=1 / 0
                                Marks=2 / 2
                                Clearences=0 / 2
                                Clangers=2 / 2
                                Frees F=0 / 0
                                Frees A=1 / 1
                                TOG=36/ 86
                                Hitouts=9 / 37
                                Jolly had 50 more minutes on ground and didnt fare much better accept in the hit outs.
                                Now this is a thread that i would expect on the ego -centric, wank session that is redandwhiteonline.com...

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