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  • chammond
    • Jan 2003
    • 1368

    #31
    Originally posted by stellation
    [B]Grundy lines up at FF in the reserves with a purpose of kicking goals, I like the look of him there but he really is an old fashioned mark/shot on goal full-forward and doesn't look to set him teammates up. Davis lines up in the midfield in the reserves and is looking to setup teammates more than kick goals him self, he is still averaging 3.5 goals per game (across only 4, so not a great deal of value in the stats).
    [B]
    Davis has averaged 1.5 goals across a larger number of games whilst Grundy has averaged 1.75, it would be pretty naive to assume that averaging 1.75 in 4 games means you will kick 21 in 12.

    3 of the games that Davis didn't kick a goal in were together in one slump, his other game was round 1 where he spent a fair bit of time in the midfield and had around 20 disposals.

    I like Heath, but I don't think he and Davis are apples and apples. Can I ask why you didn't include disposals in the comparison?
    I've got no argument with anything you say, but we're talking about changing a winning side. There is nothing that suggests that Davis will improve the team enough to make the risk worthwhile. While I enjoy watching Davis play, I'm willing to forego that for as long as Grundy is doing his job.

    Regarding possessions, you'd obviously have to compare "apples with apples". In terms of small utilities helping out through the midfield, O'Keefe, Schneider and McVeigh are better at that than Davis.

    This season, it has been rare that Davis has been clearly in our best 22, including currently. Unless he does something "special" in the reserves, he shouldn't get a game in the seniors.

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    • Sanecow
      Suspended by the MRP
      • Mar 2003
      • 6917

      #32
      Who will make way for Spriggs? He's back on the reserves best list after a week out (so that nobody can claim he's been on the list every game he plays, hmm?). Deserves a run in the seniors ahead of some of the coach's favourites.

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      • Sanecow
        Suspended by the MRP
        • Mar 2003
        • 6917

        #33
        Originally posted by chammond
        Regarding possessions, you'd obviously have to compare "apples with apples".
        Oh, so now you want a fair comparison.

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        • ugg
          Can you feel it?
          Site Admin
          • Jan 2003
          • 15976

          #34
          Originally posted by Sanecow
          Who will make way for Spriggs? He's back on the reserves best list after a week out (so that nobody can claim he's been on the list every game he plays, hmm?). Deserves a run in the seniors ahead of some of the coach's favourites.
          Don't be un-Bloodslike. Spriggs is needed to ensure an AFL Canberra back-to-back. Its the Bloods way.
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          • goswannie14
            Leadership Group
            • Sep 2005
            • 11166

            #35
            Originally posted by ugg
            Don't be un-Bloodslike. Spriggs is needed to ensure an AFL Canberra back-to-back. Its the Bloods way.
            Yep, sacrificing the individual for the team.
            Does God believe in Atheists?

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            • chammond
              • Jan 2003
              • 1368

              #36
              Originally posted by stellation
              If you are going to include Luke's game against the Bulldogs then Nick has a hell of a lot more than 1 match winning performance.
              I am. He hasn't.

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              • ugg
                Can you feel it?
                Site Admin
                • Jan 2003
                • 15976

                #37
                The Canberra Times - Davis needs Roosy's thumb

                Nick Davis says he's ready. His report card from yesterday's Sydney reserves match against Queanbeyan says he's ready. All that remains is a raised thumb from Swans senior coach Paul Roos.
                Good article that describes in detail what Davis did yesterday.
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                • goswannie14
                  Leadership Group
                  • Sep 2005
                  • 11166

                  #38
                  Originally posted by chammond
                  I am. He hasn't.
                  Short memory? Collingwood a few years back. I think he did the same sort of "match winning" performance as the Vogels one you are referring too.
                  Does God believe in Atheists?

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                  • chammond
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 1368

                    #39
                    Aha, I've worked out the code -

                    :rollseyes: means "I'm an obsessive poster who has nothng intelligent to say, and I'm determined to prove it"

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                    • Sanecow
                      Suspended by the MRP
                      • Mar 2003
                      • 6917

                      #40
                      Originally posted by chammond
                      Aha, I've worked out the code -

                      :rollseyes: means "I'm an obsessive poster who has nothng intelligent to say, and I'm determined to prove it"
                      You selectively compared apples with oranges to make a "point" but then your complete lack of a point was revealed. Back pedalling like crazy, you cried "apples and oranges"! is all your drivel deserved.

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                      • wheels27
                        On the Rookie List
                        • Mar 2005
                        • 397

                        #41
                        [QUOTE]Davis - among Sydney's best yesterday through hard work rather than his typical miracle-maker qualities - said after the match that he had patience to prove he deserved a senior spot.

                        "I'm just playing my role in this team and if I can get back into the ones I'll play my role there," Davis said.

                        "I've got my weight and fitness back so I'll just wait my turn and I'll be ready."
                        [QUOTE]

                        I hope this quote doesn't put in jeopardy any proposed recall, spoken to the media again, and the actual quote is about as inflammatory as the last ones, just appear much more politically correct in the context of this article.

                        Consistensy would demand he be further punished.
                        I hear not what you say, for the thunder of who you are.

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                        • chammond
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 1368

                          #42
                          Originally posted by goswannie14
                          Short memory? Collingwood a few years back. I think he did the same sort of "match winning" performance as the Vogels one you are referring too.
                          I've got every game Davis has played for the Swans on tape. And I've got a good memory. If the game against "Collingwood a few years back" is all you can come up with, it tends to support my argument, doesn't it?

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                          • chammond
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 1368

                            #43
                            Originally posted by Sanecow
                            You selectively compared apples with oranges to make a "point" but then your complete lack of a point was revealed. Back pedalling like crazy, you cried "apples and oranges"! is all your drivel deserved.
                            like I said -

                            :rollseyes: means "I'm an obsessive poster who has nothng intelligent to say, and I'm determined to prove it"

                            As always, you sit in the corner and sneer rather than add anything worth reading.

                            Still you can always blame the moderators for your shortcomings, can't you?

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                            • Sanecow
                              Suspended by the MRP
                              • Mar 2003
                              • 6917

                              #44
                              Originally posted by chammond
                              I've got every game Davis has played for the Swans on tape. And I've got a good memory. If the game against "Collingwood a few years back" is all you can come up with, it tends to support my argument, doesn't it?
                              2 goals v Collingwood in a one point win, round 13 2005 was more of a match winning performance than anything Vogels could claim.

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                              • Sanecow
                                Suspended by the MRP
                                • Mar 2003
                                • 6917

                                #45
                                Originally posted by chammond
                                like I said -

                                :rollseyes: means "I'm an obsessive poster who has nothng intelligent to say, and I'm determined to prove it"

                                As always, you sit in the corner and sneer rather than add anything worth reading.

                                Still you can always blame the moderators for your shortcomings, can't you?
                                If you'd rather make personal attacks than back your ridiculous claims, that's fine, it reflects on you.

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