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  • NMWBloods
    Taking Refuge!!
    • Jan 2003
    • 15819

    #16
    Maybe it recognises that he has been underpaid for some of the past few years?
    Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

    "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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    • AnnieH
      RWOs Black Sheep
      • Aug 2006
      • 11332

      #17
      Anyone know how much Leo Barry gets?

      BBBH - $2mil
      Hippyboy - $1mil
      Leaping Leo - $500K?????

      The mind boggles with how they come up with figures like this. Do you think they use a calculator?
      Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
      Blessed are the cracked for they are the ones who let in the light.

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      • NMWBloods
        Taking Refuge!!
        • Jan 2003
        • 15819

        #18
        Over $300K pa is not an insane amount for the captain of a club in Sydney.
        Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

        "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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        • AnnieH
          RWOs Black Sheep
          • Aug 2006
          • 11332

          #19
          Originally posted by NMWBloods
          Over $300K pa is not an insane amount for the captain of a club in Sydney.
          Totally agreed ... it probably should be more (they are under additional pressure and all).

          Bazza got $2 mil for a two year contract.
          Hippyboys getting $1mil for three.

          I am totally speculating that Leo only gets $500K and am using that speculation for my argument.

          Why are the three captains paid different amounts? You think they'd all get the same.
          Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
          Blessed are the cracked for they are the ones who let in the light.

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          • liz
            Veteran
            Site Admin
            • Jan 2003
            • 16778

            #20
            Originally posted by Annie Haddad

            Bazza got $2 mil for a two year contract.
            What is your source for that? Don't recall seeing figures like that reported and I'd be very surprised if Hall is getting $1m a year. I thought it was reported that he'd signed a three year contract.

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            • hammo
              Veterans List
              • Jul 2003
              • 5554

              #21
              Originally posted by Annie Haddad


              Why are the three captains paid different amounts? You think they'd all get the same.
              Only one of three is arguably the best key forward in the AFL.

              Of the other two, one is a defensive midfielder who wouldn't rate in the top 10 or 15 midfielders of the AFL and one is an undersized fullback who gives away the most free kicks in the competition.
              "As everyone knows our style of football is defensive and unattractive, and as such I have completely forgotten how to mark or kick over the years" - Brett Kirk

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              • AnnieH
                RWOs Black Sheep
                • Aug 2006
                • 11332

                #22
                Originally posted by liz
                What is your source for that? Don't recall seeing figures like that reported and I'd be very surprised if Hall is getting $1m a year. I thought it was reported that he'd signed a three year contract.
                He got a $2m contract - it was a big deal at the time. I really don't have time today to go back and check the media to source it. I can't remember if it was for two or for three years ... could have been three. (Our group have been on about it all year. For every behind he kicks, he has to put $2000 back into the kitty. It's a game day game we like to play ... we call him the $2million man.)

                Still, for BBBH, that's $666,666 per year for three years. Kirky's getting $333,333 per year for three years.

                Why aren't they getting paid the same if they're "doing the same job"?

                Hippyboy should sign up with BBBH's agent. He could have got a better deal.
                Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
                Blessed are the cracked for they are the ones who let in the light.

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                • Industrial Fan
                  Goodesgoodesgoodesgoodes!
                  • Aug 2006
                  • 3318

                  #23
                  I thought Baz got 4 yrs?
                  He ate more cheese, than time allowed

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                  • AnnieH
                    RWOs Black Sheep
                    • Aug 2006
                    • 11332

                    #24
                    Originally posted by hammo
                    Only one of three is arguably the best key forward in the AFL.

                    Of the other two, one is a defensive midfielder who wouldn't rate in the top 10 or 15 midfielders of the AFL and one is an undersized fullback who gives away the most free kicks in the competition.
                    Arguably ... OK ....

                    As much as it hurts to say this, Fevola was the best goal kicker in the 2006 competition.

                    Before you all jump down my throat, the colman medal count says he was.

                    Sydney haven't had a coleman medal winner since 1996 (and prior to that 1991 - both Mr A Lockett).

                    BBBH was the "leading goalkicker" after the final series for 2005 (on 80). Too late for the Colman. I recall that he could have won the coleman in 2005, but in the final home/away game he "gave away" the goal opportunities that would have won it for him.

                    I would say that BBBH would be ONE of the best, not the best.

                    No argument on the others.
                    Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
                    Blessed are the cracked for they are the ones who let in the light.

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                    • NMWBloods
                      Taking Refuge!!
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 15819

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Annie Haddad
                      Why aren't they getting paid the same if they're "doing the same job"?
                      Because they're not "doing the same job".
                      Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

                      "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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                      • AnnieH
                        RWOs Black Sheep
                        • Aug 2006
                        • 11332

                        #26
                        Originally posted by NMWBloods
                        Because they're not "doing the same job".
                        But Bloods, they are all co-captains - equal in their captaincy (or so it seems on paper).

                        Ok, one is a mid fielder, the other a defender and the other a forward, but they are "all captaining" the team.

                        With that pricing structure, I'd say BBBH was the "Captain", Hippyboy the "Vice" and Leaping Leo the "Vice's Vice".

                        They should just come out and say so instead of saying we have "three equal captains".
                        Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
                        Blessed are the cracked for they are the ones who let in the light.

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                        • NMWBloods
                          Taking Refuge!!
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 15819

                          #27
                          Their main job is playing football. They're paid based on their value to the team. Being captain is only part of it, and only a small part at that.
                          Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

                          "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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                          • Gary
                            Regular in the Side
                            • Sep 2005
                            • 608

                            #28
                            All this waffle about 3 captains...dumb idea from day 1...I can't believe people still see Kirky being worth his place in 3 years.

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                            • hammo
                              Veterans List
                              • Jul 2003
                              • 5554

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Annie Haddad
                              But Bloods, they are all co-captains - equal in their captaincy (or so it seems on paper).
                              The captaincy would not be a huge factor when negotiating contracts.

                              The main consideration is rightly value to the team from a playing perspective and in that regard Baz wins hands down.

                              Key forwards are the most valuable position in the game and Baz is one of the best going around.

                              You are kidding yourself if you think Fevola is more valuable. If he was, then Carlton would not be running 16th. Fevola kicks a lot of goals because he doesn't have an O'Loughlin, O'Keefe or Davis playing alongside him.

                              Hall sets up far more goals than he kicks through his workrate and positional play.
                              "As everyone knows our style of football is defensive and unattractive, and as such I have completely forgotten how to mark or kick over the years" - Brett Kirk

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                              • AnnieH
                                RWOs Black Sheep
                                • Aug 2006
                                • 11332

                                #30
                                Originally posted by hammo
                                The captaincy would not be a huge factor when negotiating contracts.

                                The main consideration is rightly value to the team from a playing perspective and in that regard Baz wins hands down.

                                Key forwards are the most valuable position in the game and Baz is one of the best going around.

                                You are kidding yourself if you think Fevola is more valuable. If he was, then Carlton would not be running 16th. Fevola kicks a lot of goals because he doesn't have an O'Loughlin, O'Keefe or Davis playing alongside him.

                                Hall sets up far more goals than he kicks through his workrate and positional play.
                                I agree with everything that you're saying guys, and understand that indeed, BBBH is the better player, and is worth more, but you'd think that the captaincy would have it's priviledges (money-wise).

                                Fev did win the Coleman. Therefore for 2006, he WAS the best goalkicker. Barry should worry more about himself sometimes and get the awards he rightly deserves. This is the second or third year in a row he's missed out on the Coleman through his "generosity". The whole comp knows he's the best, but he just keeps missing out on the big gong.

                                All this is moot anyhow for me ... you all know I want GOODSEY for captain. (There you go, happy now?? You've started me up again!!)
                                Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
                                Blessed are the cracked for they are the ones who let in the light.

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