Goodes to get better: Roos

[craigusvegas]

deep in our memories should be the game that kouta won singlehandely against the swans a few years back - just before his knee injury. that was the game that had him stamped as a superstar where he played the game to his own tune and the swans were mere followers. yes a few years ago - but sadly ( but goodes for us) - that player and no 43 for the blues these days ain't the same player as before that knee injury. just goes to show that the difference can be snuffed out in an instant of knee buckling. he WAS on top of the tree....

[swantastic]

Originally posted by liz
I agree that arguing on the basis of Brownlow medals is crap

So in your opinion brownlows mean nothing,so what Kouta was a great player but not consistant enough IMO.On Hirdy and Bucks,Hirdy gets my tick as a better player.

[liz]

Originally posted by swantastic
So in your opinion brownlows mean nothing,

Not really. They are nice to have, I am sure, but in terms of evaluating players' relative worth over their career I think they can be a bit irrelevant.

Matthews, Ablett and Carey are deemed to be amongst the best players ever to have graced the game, yet they have a total of zippo Brownlows between them. And each year there are arguably four or five players each of whom would be a worthy winner, yet most just miss out.

That's why Greg Williams' recent claims that he was cheated of another Brownlow were a bit daft. He will be remembered as a magnificent player despite "only" winning two Brownlows. Winning a third wouldn't have made the slightest bit of difference to how his career was evaluated.

[Layby]

Originally posted by stellation
Kouta was the best player I have ever had the pleasure to watch. Amazing player.

Pfft !

Carey ?

In my lifetime

[AnnieH]

Originally posted by NMWBloods
Why?

By his own admission, and because I think he's just that type of player - always trying to improve his skills and speed.

He's done that since day one. God I've loved watching him play. IMO 2004 was a little ordinary - you try playing with two bad knees.

Goodsey can virtually play any position around the ground and has the uncanny ability to appear to be in two places at once.

Therefore, in my most humblest of opinion, as he matures further, he can only get better.

[TheHood]

The Kouta adoration is a touch sentimental of days gone by. I tell the story of how great Roosy was as a player in that he dominated from the backline and the year he was asked to go forward, he topped the goal kicking for the Roys.

My point is, when I look back on Goodesy's career, I will talk about the year he won the Brownlow from the ruck at 23 and then cruised on to win it is a wingman, cum rover etc 3 years later.

I will talk about him pumping out one of the greatest statistical quarters ever seen from an AFL player v The Crows at AAMI.

Then who knows where his career will go from there.

I will certainly remember Adam Goodes and speak of his achievements and toil in the same light as I would Kouta.

Liz is right, comparisons between Kouta and Adam are redundant.

[stellation]

Originally posted by Layby
Pfft !

Carey ?

In my lifetime

Yep, including Carey. I just remember distinctly seeing Kouta absolutley tear teams apart and seem to own an entire ground.

[reigning premier]

Kouta = Great player with ability to grab the game by the scruff of the neck and with displays of individual brillance turn the shape of the game on his own will power alone....

Or at least he was....

Goodesy = A high class, quality player with extraordinary abilities, and Silky smooth skills, and the versatility to play all of the ground and to destroy almost any opponent.

And still yet to reach his best......

[Sanecow]

Originally posted by reigning premier
Silky smooth skills

Of course.

[dimelb]

[i] ... Silky smooth skills ... [/B]

That might be a problem.
I remember one of Terry Alderman's team mates saying that he went to England a Labrador and came back an Alsatian. Perhaps our Silky might pick up a bit of Alsatian, or Kelpie, or Blue Heeler.

[reigning premier]

Originally posted by dimelb
That might be a problem.
I remember one of Terry Alderman's team mates saying that he went to England a Labrador and came back an Alsatian. Perhaps our Silky might pick up a bit of Alsatian, or Kelpie, or Blue Heeler.

Probably the one thing he needs.... A bit of mongrel in him....

[Foreign Legion]

Originally posted by stellation
Kouta was the best player I have ever had the pleasure to watch. Amazing player.

Really?

You ever see - say - G.Williams?

[DeadlyAkkuret]

Kouta was brilliant on his day (those were rare, due to injuries) but i believe he reached his peak, and i don't think Goodes has gotten close to his best yet.

The man (Goodes) has already won 2 brownlows, and is yet to really explode in a match as yet, that's a pretty scary thought. His effort against the crows in '05 i think it was, was just amazing! but he's a very team oriented player, and is so versatile, which i believe is sometimes a bad thing for him.

Being able to play in almost any position is a blessing, but it also means he'll never truely settle, making it difficult for him to be moulded into a particular player. Let's forget the comparisons, and just be greatful the man is wearing the red & white

[Bloody Hell]

I remember a day when he was very young..can't remember when or who we were playing...but he kicked 3 goals in a quarter...from fullback.

[DeadlyAkkuret]

Who? it's hard to know if this is about Kouta or Goodes, thanks to everyone changing the topic a thousand times.