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  • liz
    Veteran
    Site Admin
    • Jan 2003
    • 16795

    #61
    Originally posted by NMWBloods
    We can lack someone to spark when the team is in a rut. It does happen through what seems like a slow, irresistable force of will, such as it did last night or in the '06GF, but I'd like to see an individual player grab the game when we're down and make something happen. Goodes and Hall are capable of that, but did not last night (and do not do it enough).

    Kirk is capable - and as I posted earlier, I think it was he who set the standard in the second half. As he did in the GF last year.

    And I think Hall was trying very hard to spark the team last night. It can be hard to do it when you're playing in the forward line and the problems are happening further up the ground. But while his play-on tactics and attempted tackle busting didn't always work, I think it was a sign of him desperately trying to make something happen within that horrendously clogged up forward line when the more traditional approach wasn't working. Even though it was hardly one of his classic games, he was one of the few who tried to play a four quarter game, I reckon.

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    • Xie Shan
      Senior Player
      • Jan 2003
      • 2929

      #62
      Originally posted by AussieAnge
      Jeffers don't you realise that only Sydney flood other teams merely get "numbers behind the ball?"
      I don't take many pictures during the game, but I couldn't resist taking this one demonstrating the Eagles' proficiency at "getting numbers behind the ball" . This is our forward line in the second quarter...

      And I agree, Roos did not seem to react to this. Maybe our forward line has become too predictable, we missed Schneider last night. Phillips needs some extended time up forward to show what he can do, his lack of experience against someone like Wirrpanda was telling.

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      • NMWBloods
        Taking Refuge!!
        • Jan 2003
        • 15819

        #63
        Originally posted by liz
        Kirk is capable - and as I posted earlier, I think it was he who set the standard in the second half. As he did in the GF last year.
        He is, but I feel it's more a slower, grinding process rather than setting the team alight, which Goodes could do.

        And I think Hall was trying very hard to spark the team last night. It can be hard to do it when you're playing in the forward line and the problems are happening further up the ground. But while his play-on tactics and attempted tackle busting didn't always work, I think it was a sign of him desperately trying to make something happen within that horrendously clogged up forward line when the more traditional approach wasn't working. Even though it was hardly one of his classic games, he was one of the few who tried to play a four quarter game, I reckon.
        Yep, he definitely tried, but probably too hard. Should have just gone back to basics.
        Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

        "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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        • annew
          Senior Player
          • Mar 2006
          • 2164

          #64
          I think that Goodes is wasted as a tagger no matter that he is against the best in the AFL. Goodes should be given the same freedom as Judd is given, stop using him to negate the best player and let the opposition try and negate him. Goodes just does not play well in a negative role, he is an attacking player first and foremost and still played the best footy of his career as a ruck man where he could go wherever he wanted.

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          • Mr_Juicy
            Warming the Bench
            • Mar 2007
            • 397

            #65
            Originally posted by NMWBloods
            Thanks Mr_Timely but he wasn't really that clear!
            I'm sorry I don't spend as much time on here as you apparantly do. And yes it was made abundantly clear to me from the start.

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            • NMWBloods
              Taking Refuge!!
              • Jan 2003
              • 15819

              #66
              Originally posted by Mr_Juicy
              I'm sorry I don't spend as much time on here as you apparantly do. And yes it was made abundantly clear to me from the start.
              Perhaps you could then have noticed that the issue you referred to had already been discussed and clarified... but you probably did and just preferred your usual approach...
              Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

              "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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              • Mr_Juicy
                Warming the Bench
                • Mar 2007
                • 397

                #67
                Originally posted by NMWBloods
                Perhaps you could then have noticed that the issue you referred to had already been discussed and clarified... but you probably did and just preferred your usual approach...
                Aaaah yes. My usual approach. How does that go again?

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                • NMWBloods
                  Taking Refuge!!
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 15819

                  #68
                  Originally posted by Mr_Juicy
                  Aaaah yes. My usual approach. How does that go again?
                  There are lots of reasons why a team "should" win a match or not - I was clarifying what his were, as made clear in subsequent discussions.

                  You know what your usual approach is - you use the same one with each incarnation.
                  Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

                  "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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                  • DeadlyAkkuret
                    Veterans List
                    • Oct 2006
                    • 4547

                    #69
                    Originally posted by Xie Shan
                    I don't take many pictures during the game, but I couldn't resist taking this one demonstrating the Eagles' proficiency at "getting numbers behind the ball" . This is our forward line in the second quarter...
                    That's amazing isn't it. If that were us, we'd be "ruining the game", "playing boring football", but when it's the Eagles it's "getting numbers back"

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                    • ugg
                      Can you feel it?
                      Site Admin
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 15978

                      #70
                      Originally posted by Xie Shan
                      I don't take many pictures during the game, but I couldn't resist taking this one demonstrating the Eagles' proficiency at "getting numbers behind the ball" . This is our forward line in the second quarter...

                      And I agree, Roos did not seem to react to this. Maybe our forward line has become too predictable, we missed Schneider last night. Phillips needs some extended time up forward to show what he can do, his lack of experience against someone like Wirrpanda was telling.
                      Haha, I'm sitting about four rows down from you. I can even see the back of my head in the picture.
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