The Bloods Code's Achilles Heel

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  • melbloods78
    On the Rookie List
    • Jul 2006
    • 83

    #16
    I love that this era of the swans never leaves us wondering. They have a red hot go at every game. Certainly was expecting to be massacred last night at half time, thought our bubble might have burst on the tight finishes with WCE but they found a way. You can't fault that. it will fade in time, just enjoy it while we are in the moment.
    www.fuselive.com.au

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    • ROK Lobster
      RWO Life Member
      • Aug 2004
      • 8658

      #17
      For @@@@'s sake. This has been my point for 12 months (and a few others) but when ever I have raised it I have been thoroughly abused. The bloods culture, secret society bulldust is dangerous. The club is likely to be a basket case in 5 years, with no Roos, no Hall, no Kirk etc. It is short sighted. Who is, or who are, the next captains of the club? Who will form the next leadership group?

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      • dimelb
        pr. dim-melb; m not f
        • Jun 2003
        • 6889

        #18
        I assume the selectors are the ones who have to bite the bullet - and I hope they do pretty soon.
        He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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        • Xie Shan
          Senior Player
          • Jan 2003
          • 2929

          #19
          Originally posted by Agent 86
          Hey, it's still One-All in the last 2 years. If brilliance alone was the key, the Weagles would be well ahead. Last night something brought us back from what looked like being a pasting (& I couldn't say it was brilliance).
          Fair comment. I think the Bloods culture has helped in getting everyone to read from the same page, but I guess it goes back to the well-drilled v talent thing as to whether you think it comes at the expense of suppressing individual brilliance or not. I'm going to agree with ROK here that it is short-sighted, there needs to be a better succession plan. I still think if a club had a stand-out inspirational leader like Voss or Kelly they would be better off with just the one captain.

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          • liz
            Veteran
            Site Admin
            • Jan 2003
            • 16769

            #20
            Originally posted by Xie Shan
            I'm going to agree with ROK here that it is short-sighted, there needs to be a better succession plan. I still think if a club had a stand-out inspirational leader like Voss or Kelly they would be better off with just the one captain.
            This I don't get. Surely it is a sounder succession plan to have a strong team ethic that enables the team as a whole to achieve its best regardless of personnel than it is to rely on the brilliance of individuals? Particularly if the culture is truly ingrained within the club, rather than being driven by just one or two people.

            In theory the high level of performance should be able to be sustained for much longer than if a team relies on individual brilliance. Which is not to say that such a team is always going to be competing for the flag. Regardless of team ethic, the Swans wouldn't be much chop without the skills of its better players and when they're gone, it may take some time to find the new stars of the team. But theoretically it should enable any given team to play close to the best it is able to, given its personnel.

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            • giant
              Veterans List
              • Mar 2005
              • 4731

              #21
              Good questions MA & well expressed.

              Might be too early to say the culture is "broke" tho - surely, it needs to be judged in exactly how it does handle that leadership shift? I think the jury's still out & I don't think round 1 is the time to be considering a change of tack. However, I think you've correctly identified those members of the leadership group who look increasingly under pressure.

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              • Xie Shan
                Senior Player
                • Jan 2003
                • 2929

                #22
                Originally posted by liz
                This I don't get. Surely it is a sounder succession plan to have a strong team ethic that enables the team as a whole to achieve its best regardless of personnel than it is to rely on the brilliance of individuals? Particularly if the culture is truly ingrained within the club, rather than being driven by just one or two people.
                Yeah, I see what you mean. I think the leadership group can work quite well as long as there is some kind of rotation or succession, but then that just brings us back to the point of this thread.

                I was thinking more along the lines that if there is an obvious choice for the captaincy then there might not be as much of a need to share it.

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                • Agent 86
                  Senior Player
                  • Aug 2004
                  • 1689

                  #23
                  Originally posted by giant
                  Might be too early to say the culture is "broke" tho - surely, it needs to be judged in exactly how it does handle that leadership shift? I think the jury's still out & I don't think round 1 is the time to be considering a change of tack. However, I think you've correctly identified those members of the leadership group who look increasingly under pressure.
                  I certainly don't think it's broke yet, but this thread has made me think about the possibility of an inner circle of senior players who may escape the level of scrutiny that those on the periphery have to face week to week. I guess this is the case in most successful teams (in all sports) but there is a danger it could lead to problems if not managed well.

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                  • Alibi Monday
                    33 Years of Support
                    • Jul 2006
                    • 112

                    #24
                    Originally posted by giant
                    Good questions MA & well expressed.

                    Might be too early to say the culture is "broke" tho - surely, it needs to be judged in exactly how it does handle that leadership shift? I think the jury's still out & I don't think round 1 is the time to be considering a change of tack. However, I think you've correctly identified those members of the leadership group who look increasingly under pressure.
                    Yes, way too early to say it's broke, and I actually haven't been saying that as such. I'm just speculating that there are some worrying signs, especially regarding team selection. I love the culture, love the spirit, love the values, love the Bloods - it might just need some tweeking and genuine courage. I don't envy anyone in the position as the brutal honesty required is excruiatingly difficult to deliver and accept.

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                    • ROK Lobster
                      RWO Life Member
                      • Aug 2004
                      • 8658

                      #25
                      Is it time to revisit some of these old threads?

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