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  • ROK Lobster
    RWO Life Member
    • Aug 2004
    • 8658

    The day Leo kept Gehrig to 2 touches...

    ...was a long time ago. That, in my mind, was the day that Sydney decided that we did not need a fullback, that Leo, and C Bolton and others, could play big. I am not going to be as hard on Leo as others have here (though I thought he was ordinary Sat night but he does have those nights) because overall he does a pretty good job, as does Bolton and increasingly Ted, but, since that day at the SCG there have been two pretty important rule changes, or at least changes in the way two rules are interpreted, that have a pretty big impact on smaller defenders. Was Leo's day out on the man in the tight shorts ultimately a bad day for Sydney. Was this the day it was decided that the big full back was no longer required? Is it now that big fullbacks are more likely to be important, where body holds body rather than atleticism defeating lumbering mass? Is Jon Hay worth talking to - I'd say yes, worth talking to certainly. I also think that we need a big back - why not look for a ready made one. It is probably easier to get his head right than it would be to construct a full back out of Jolly...
  • DeadlyAkkuret
    Veterans List
    • Oct 2006
    • 4547

    #2
    Originally posted by ROK Lobster
    ...was a long time ago. That, in my mind, was the day that Sydney decided that we did not need a fullback, that Leo, and C Bolton and others, could play big. I am not going to be as hard on Leo as others have here (though I thought he was ordinary Sat night but he does have those nights) because overall he does a pretty good job, as does Bolton and increasingly Ted, but, since that day at the SCG there have been two pretty important rule changes, or at least changes in the way two rules are interpreted, that have a pretty big impact on smaller defenders. Was Leo's day out on the man in the tight shorts ultimately a bad day for Sydney. Was this the day it was decided that the big full back was no longer required? Is it now that big fullbacks are more likely to be important, where body holds body rather than atleticism defeating lumbering mass? Is Jon Hay worth talking to - I'd say yes, worth talking to certainly. I also think that we need a big back - why not look for a ready made one. It is probably easier to get his head right than it would be to construct a full back out of Jolly...
    It's happened people, he's finally gone troppo!

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    • nat
      On the Rookie List
      • Oct 2006
      • 501

      #3
      I remember that game, i had to watch it from the emergency room at the hospital. I was so proud of Leo!

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      • Nico
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        • Jan 2003
        • 11339

        #4
        I think that was the week when Fraser got blotto with Lawrence at a bar in Moorabbin the night before, crashed his car and had a massive dose of the flu.

        On Jon Hay, sadly for him he appears to have gone to the "other side" and all the talking wont make a lot of sense to him. It really would be a disaster for Hay if he tries a comeback. Surely you wouldn't waste a draft pick on him.
        http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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        • hammo
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          • Jul 2003
          • 5554

          #5
          Round 1 last year should have sounded the warning bells
          "As everyone knows our style of football is defensive and unattractive, and as such I have completely forgotten how to mark or kick over the years" - Brett Kirk

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          • DeadlyAkkuret
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            • Oct 2006
            • 4547

            #6
            Originally posted by hammo
            Round 1 last year should have sounded the warning bells
            You beat me to it hammo, i was just thinking that. As Lloydy was towelling him up, i was visializing a big, ACME style axe.

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            • swantastic
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              • Jan 2006
              • 7275

              #7
              Originally posted by ROK Lobster
              ... construct a full back out of Jolly...
              ROK you cant be serious,Jolly a full back double Ppppffftt that comment is laughable.
              Now this is a thread that i would expect on the ego -centric, wank session that is redandwhiteonline.com...

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              • NMWBloods
                Taking Refuge!!
                • Jan 2003
                • 15819

                #8
                Originally posted by hammo
                Round 1 last year should have sounded the warning bells
                As should have the next four times Barry played on Gehrig (20 goals).
                Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

                "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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                • ROK Lobster
                  RWO Life Member
                  • Aug 2004
                  • 8658

                  #9
                  Originally posted by swantastic
                  ROK you cant be serious,Jolly a full back double Ppppffftt that comment is laughable.
                  He spent time at full back during the pre-season. We have 3 ruckmen. I am not suggesting that it is a good idea, but simply that it may be easier to get Hay's head right than it would be to create a full back from a ruck man, or bigger bodied player that is not a full back. Perhaps you should read all of the post, or at least try and understand sentences in the context of the entire post.

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                  • ROK Lobster
                    RWO Life Member
                    • Aug 2004
                    • 8658

                    #10
                    Originally posted by DeadlyAkkuret
                    It's happened people, he's finally gone troppo!
                    So what is your point? Which bit of the question, and it is essentially a question, do you think is troppo?

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                    • swantastic
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                      • Jan 2006
                      • 7275

                      #11
                      Originally posted by ROK Lobster
                      He spent time at full back during the pre-season. We have 3 ruckmen. I am not suggesting that it is a good idea, but simply that it may be easier to get Hay's head right than it would be to create a full back from a ruck man, or bigger bodied player that is not a full back. Perhaps you should read all of the post, or at least try and understand sentences in the context of the entire post.
                      There you go again ROK talking down to people and BTW i did read your whole post and i reckon Hay is laughable as well.
                      Now this is a thread that i would expect on the ego -centric, wank session that is redandwhiteonline.com...

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                      • ROK Lobster
                        RWO Life Member
                        • Aug 2004
                        • 8658

                        #12
                        Originally posted by swantastic
                        There you go again ROK talking down to people and BTW i did read your whole post and i reckon Hay is laughable as well.
                        You note that I cannot be serious, pfft and say that a suggestion (that was not made) is laughable, but get antsy if I criticise your interpretation of my post. If you read the entire post and came to that conclusion then you are stupid. I was being charitable assuming that you had not read it all. I will not make that mistake again. I did not suggest that Jolly would make a good full back. The crux of the post was something entirely different. You seem not to understand that.

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                        • swantastic
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                          • Jan 2006
                          • 7275

                          #13
                          Originally posted by ROK Lobster
                          You note that I cannot be serious, pfft and say that a suggestion (that was not made) is laughable, but get antsy if I criticise your interpretation of my post. If you read the entire post and came to that conclusion then you are stupid. I was being charitable assuming that you had not read it all. I will not make that mistake again. I did not suggest that Jolly would make a good full back. The crux of the post was something entirely different. You seem not to understand that.
                          You dont like it if people criticise your posts either and i am not stupid.What you did say was...
                          It is probably easier to get his(Hay) head right than it would be to construct a full back out of Jolly...
                          So IMO with that comment you threw Jolly into the mix and the crux of the post was,do we need a big body defender?Every body interprets post diffrently and that was just my opinion.
                          Now this is a thread that i would expect on the ego -centric, wank session that is redandwhiteonline.com...

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                          • Sanecow
                            Suspended by the MRP
                            • Mar 2003
                            • 6917

                            #14
                            An undersized Leo Barry was bearable when he could run out of defense but he was burned off by Lynch on the weekend. Either he's not fit or it's time to reconsider how he's used (read: in the ACT).

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                            • ROK Lobster
                              RWO Life Member
                              • Aug 2004
                              • 8658

                              #15
                              Originally posted by swantastic
                              You dont like it if people criticise your posts either and i am not stupid.What you did say was...So IMO with that comment you threw Jolly into the mix and the crux of the post was,do we need a big body defender?Every body interprets post diffrently and that was just my opinion.
                              And my point was that it would be difficult to make Jolly a defender. Your response was pfft, that's a joke you can't make Jolly into a defender.

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