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It's a very interesting subject to me, because in all the time that I've been watching SM/Sydney we've never had a KPP consistently ranked in the top handful of players in the league - a true champion, other than maybe Lockett (however I would think that would probably only relate to 95,96).
Williams was possibly a top 5 player for 3 years (87,88,89), Goodes is definitely making a show now too. I don't even think Kelly would have been considered to be a top 5 player in the league during his day.
From all reports, I think I'd have to go Nash, but if Hall could string 2 more seasons at 3 goals, 14 poss, 8 marks average per game. It would make a good argument for Hall over Nash. Shame he wasn't under Roos at the start of his career.Comment
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I keeps thinkin to meself,how would Nash go in Hall's time and how would Hall go in Nash's time?.....conumdrum
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I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his timeComment
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Nash with his height in today's modern game would be either a handy forward pocket, or because he could play in defence, a Jared Crouch type - Small Defender who could become a run with player with today's modern training. His skills and ability from the 1930's would been improved with the extra training that would focus on them from an early age as well.
Hall would be a ruckman end of story. His height in the 1930's would of been considered taller than normal for a football, so no doubt he would of been from an early age used as a ruckman. Whether he would have the same skills and fitness he has today would be questionable because of the lack of training compared to today. As for his anger issues, well, in 1930's with the one umpire system, no trial by video and the general nature of the game in those days. He would of fitted in just nicely and got away with plenty to boot.
As I said before trying to compare over different eras is difficult because as we see here, Hall wouldn't be used the same way in the 1930's as he is now and Nash wouldn't the same players now as he was in the 1930's because of the changes to the game.Once was, now elsewhereComment
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Hmmm,but can Bazza play cricket? Multi-skilling counts for alot IMO.More points for NashWhere's me flamin beer?????Comment
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Also Nash probly had to turn up for work on mundy mornin.True grit!Where's me flamin beer?????Comment
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It's been said that Hall could well have been a champion heavyweight boxer by no less than Johnny Lewis. In this day and age, there's abolutely no chance you could do what Nash did and play 2 professional sports. Therefore, you can presume that Hall could well have also been a champion boxer as well as a great footballer back in the 30s.Comment
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Last edited by BeeEmmAre; 12 April 2007, 12:01 AM."It's up to the rest of the players in the room to make a new batch of premiership players next year," Adam Goodes, triple Bob Skilton Medallist, October 7, 2011.
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Spose your right,he COULD and still may be.He also has the years left in him to be a more accomplished footy player than Nash.But with all their differences(accomplishments,sizes,eras,hairstyles, etc)theys is both Bloods/Swannies so comparing them is umm, actually quite umm(for lack of a better word)hard.Mkay!Where's me flamin beer?????Comment
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I recall Skilton saying it himself that he didn't think he could have competed with these modern day players. And he's seen a few. It's great having a star like Laurie on the record books. But if you were putting together a team to play today he simply couldn't be a CHF.
One way to compare them perhaps is to guauge their respective importance to the sides they played in. Barry Hall is absolutely integral to the modern day Swans. Probably the most important player on the list since Plugger. Can't speak for Nash, but looking at his achievements you'd say they'd have struggled without him. His figures were Carey-like for a CHF. And as for his cricket stats...um...pretty irrelevant I'd have thought.
Interesting thread.Last edited by Tuco; 12 April 2007, 12:24 PM.Comment
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