Jack promoted to senior list

[SimonH]

Sometimes you can just look at a player and tell they are going to make it. Kieren Jack falls into this category. He has a certain, how do you say, je-ne-sais-quoi.

However, I think the writing is well and truly on the wall for Bevan. He will not be at the club next season. He has no je-ne-sais-quoi.

Just admit it. You don't know whether they have je-ne-sais-quoi, or not.

Boom boom.

[liz]

Simpson & Kirk will be going head to head in a winner takes all smash em fest.

Matthews for Harvey, Crouch for Grant and probably Jack for Wells.

If we are going to bring him in, might as well give him a big job to do.

DST

At a minimum switch Mathews and Crouch around. Grant is very skilfull but also pretty slow. Harvey is very nippy.

Mathews would be far more suited to Grant than he would be to Harvey as he stands less risk of being exposed for pace - an issue Crouch shouldn't have.

Alternatively, we might see Mathews lining up on Simpson and Kirk maybe going head to head with someone like Daniel Harris, who is probably the Roos most dangerous player in terms of getting clean clearances from stoppages. Keep Harris quiet in the middle and you go a long way to neutralising the Roos' midfield.

[Old Royboy]

With Keiren making his debut, I wish this week had been one of my planned Melbourne games. I said in the ressies report this week "I gave that honour to Keiren Jack because he compliments his run and carry with terrific in and under work at the bottom of the packs." This, plus his work in defence probably account for Keiren getting the nod this week. I do get the idea that Roos is using this unusual injury window to have a look at what each of the kids can do. He now knows what Phillips and Moore have to offer, now its Keiren's turn. If the right circumstances occur, Laidlaw will get his chance later on. I was surprised he was not named as an emergency this week in case NOG doesn't come up. Probably a "one newbee at a time" philosophy.

I am a big wrap on young Jack. I have never gone to the guernsey presentation before, but I predict Keiren will be presented the #14 next year by Skilts and Kel; if so I will definitely be there.

(no pressure mate, just go out and DO IT)

[liz]

I do get the idea that Roos is using this unusual injury window to have a look at what each of the kids can do. He now knows what Phillips and Moore have to offer, now its Keiren's turn. If the right circumstances occur, Laidlaw will get his chance later on.

I think that is pertinent. At the moment Jack has only got a window of 4-5 weeks in which to play senior football, unless LRT's recovery period stretches out further or someone else goes down.

There are no such restrictions on the likes of Phillips or Laidlaw or Moore.

[Damien]

I think that is pertinent. At the moment Jack has only got a window of 4-5 weeks in which to play senior football, unless LRT's recovery period stretches out further or someone else goes down.

There are no such restrictions on the likes of Phillips or Laidlaw or Moore.

What happens if Jack turns into a Judd?, (other than me wetting myself haha) - and then LRT comes back onto the Senior List, and Jack has to go back to the Rookie list? What are the implications for Jack and for us in that scenario?

I know at the end of the season, if he turns out well, he will be promoted, but are we limited to the games he can play for the seniors if he has to go back to the rookie list??

[NMWBloods]

At a minimum switch Mathews and Crouch around. Grant is very skilfull but also pretty slow. Harvey is very nippy.

That was my first thought too.

[ugg]

What happens if Jack turns into a Judd?, (other than me wetting myself haha) - and then LRT comes back onto the Senior List, and Jack has to go back to the Rookie list? What are the implications for Jack and for us in that scenario?

I know at the end of the season, if he turns out well, he will be promoted, but are we limited to the games he can play for the seniors if he has to go back to the rookie list??

Yes, I believe he will be forced back onto the rookie list. I remember Essendon having a similar issue with Andrew Lovett a few years ago.

[royboy42]

Old Royboy talks a lot of sense re KJ.( And not just cos of our obvious affiliation, even tho I have no idea who he/she is)
Pedigree seems to count a lot in footy, no matter what the code!
The kid has something..I'm going to Melb for the Saints game..hope he's still in the firsts.
After all from rookie to starting 22 in a week is fantastic..I know it's been done but is Schneider the most recent?

[Damien]

Yes, I believe he will be forced back onto the rookie list. I remember Essendon having a similar issue with Andrew Lovett a few years ago.

Do you know what the rule is regarding how many games a rookie can play for the senior team?

[ugg]

Old Royboy talks a lot of sense re KJ.( And not just cos of our obvious affiliation, even tho I have no idea who he/she is)
Pedigree seems to count a lot in footy, no matter what the code!
The kid has something..I'm going to Melb for the Saints game..hope he's still in the firsts.
After all from rookie to starting 22 in a week is fantastic..I know it's been done but is Schneider the most recent?

Phillips was promoted last year and straight into the team, to the surprise of everyone here. No one saw his promotion coming.

[ugg]

Do you know what the rule is regarding how many games a rookie can play for the senior team?

I think as many as he can so long as he is on the senior list. I'm not sure whether he replaced anyone or we had a spare spot on the senior list.

I think SimonH or liz may have a better idea on these matters.

[Damien]

I think as many as he can so long as he is on the senior list. I'm not sure whether he replaced anyone or we had a spare spot on the senior list.

I think SimonH or liz may have a better idea on these matters.

Yeah I get the senior list thing, I am just worrying in advance (Might come to nothing) that if he works out and LRT comes back, that we can't utilise him anymore or very often.

[ugg]

Okay I've been reading up about rookies and their eligibility.

According to

http://www.afl.com.au/Season2007/News/NewsArticle/tabid/7415/Default.aspx?newsId=35617

there are two ways a rookie listed player becomes eligible.
1. A long term injury replacement.
2. Being a nominated rookie, which is only possible when the club has listed fewer than 2 veterans. This is how Paul Bevan got his chance, coincidentally also replacing an injured Kennelly.

Not sure whether option 2 applies to the Swans, I remember SimonH posting a lot about it, so perhaps he can clarify matters.

[Doctor J.]

Looks like I went off a fortnight early !!!

This kid absolutely deserves it. He will surprise plenty of Melb. based fans who have seen very little of him.

He is built like a tank, quick and his foot skills have improved out of sight.

You can probably tell, but I have to say, I'm bloody well excited and so happy for him.

I will bow to your better judgement mate. (except for matters involving D. Lewis )
Good to see "Cracker" Jack getting his chance. Well done.

[Damien]

Interesting, thanks Ugg...so basically it looks like he can't play unless on the Senior List, I think we have two veterans nominated.