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  • BBBBH
    Warming the Bench
    • Apr 2007
    • 147

    Injuries

    our fantastic run with injuries has come to an end this year.

    the lack of depth we possess is quite obvious, i could see it coming from a mile away back in 05-06, we stuck with the same 22-24 players (which we should've) and not many got a chance to learn their craft.

    there is no chance we can win the flag with injuries, we built our success on stability and team chemistry.

    we are really missing kennelly at the moment, he is so damn pivotal to our play, malceski is ok, but still lacks the experience that kennelly has.

    cant complain really, we're playing the saints next week who have one of the worst runs with injury. most would've thought their luck would change, it got even worse this year. all 3 key defenders out for them, hopefully we can have a good win.

    if we dont win next week, i will start to worry for sure.
  • Nico
    Veterans List
    • Jan 2003
    • 11339

    #2
    We have lost key 3 key defenders from 2006 GF. Hurts like hell.
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    • BBBBH
      Warming the Bench
      • Apr 2007
      • 147

      #3
      Originally posted by Nico
      We have lost key 3 key defenders from 2006 GF. Hurts like hell.
      LRT is our only key defender out at the moment...who are the other two?

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      • NMWBloods
        Taking Refuge!!
        • Jan 2003
        • 15819

        #4
        Nico means 'key' as in important - so Kennelly and Dempster.
        Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

        "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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        • ROK Lobster
          RWO Life Member
          • Aug 2004
          • 8658

          #5
          Originally posted by NMWBloods
          Nico means 'key' as in important - so Kennelly and Dempster.
          I thought they were attackers. I had pencilled in Amon and Ablett.

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          • NMWBloods
            Taking Refuge!!
            • Jan 2003
            • 15819

            #6
            Originally posted by ROK Lobster
            I thought they were attackers. I had pencilled in Amon and Ablett.
            Sorry - this topsy-turvey team has confused me!
            Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

            "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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            • SimonH
              Salt future's rising
              • Aug 2004
              • 1647

              #7
              Originally posted by BBBBH
              our fantastic run with injuries has come to an end this year.

              the lack of depth we possess is quite obvious, i could see it coming from a mile away back in 05-06, we stuck with the same 22-24 players (which we should've) and not many got a chance to learn their craft.

              there is no chance we can win the flag with injuries, we built our success on stability and team chemistry.

              we are really missing kennelly at the moment, he is so damn pivotal to our play, malceski is ok, but still lacks the experience that kennelly has.

              cant complain really, we're playing the saints next week who have one of the worst runs with injury. most would've thought their luck would change, it got even worse this year. all 3 key defenders out for them, hopefully we can have a good win.

              if we dont win next week, i will start to worry for sure.
              We did win the flag 'with injuries', and go very close to doing so 'with injuries' the next year. Do the names Stewie Maxfield, Paul Williams and Jared Crouch ring a bell?

              What you presumably mean is we can't win the flag with a lot of injuries to key players. Which is just stating the obvious. No team can. There's a good argument that the Weagles have the best depth in the comp. Take Cox, Kerr and Judd out of their side and I'd very confidently back them not to win the flag.

              'Depth' is not blokes who have played 20 league games (regardless of those games' quality, or their current form). 'Depth' is blokes who can step up from the 2s right now and give a good account of themselves. A club's depth is measured by how blokes like Moore, Grundy and Jack perform when they get the call-up. To which I say: 2 out of 3 ain't bad.

              Lack of 'depth' generally isn't causing us to lose. No team, no matter how 'deep' its list, has someone who can step in if a Tadhg Kennelly-style player gets injured and play the same position to the same level of quality. If they could, they'd already be in the 22.

              The problem is not a lack of depth at the club; it's that we want to use it on a drip-feed, not all at once. I sure agree with you that I'll be worrying if we lose to the Saints, b/c I suspect that the Pahhhhhr's style of game is one that could potentially hurt us on the SCG if they get it right. And I don't think that we could do the Lazarus with the triple bypass thing, and make the top 4 in 2007 from 3-5.

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              • BBBBH
                Warming the Bench
                • Apr 2007
                • 147

                #8
                Originally posted by SimonH
                We did win the flag 'with injuries', and go very close to doing so 'with injuries' the next year. Do the names Stewie Maxfield, Paul Williams and Jared Crouch ring a bell?

                What you presumably mean is we can't win the flag with a lot of injuries to key players. Which is just stating the obvious. No team can. There's a good argument that the Weagles have the best depth in the comp. Take Cox, Kerr and Judd out of their side and I'd very confidently back them not to win the flag.

                'Depth' is not blokes who have played 20 league games (regardless of those games' quality, or their current form). 'Depth' is blokes who can step up from the 2s right now and give a good account of themselves. A club's depth is measured by how blokes like Moore, Grundy and Jack perform when they get the call-up. To which I say: 2 out of 3 ain't bad.

                Lack of 'depth' generally isn't causing us to lose. No team, no matter how 'deep' its list, has someone who can step in if a Tadhg Kennelly-style player gets injured and play the same position to the same level of quality. If they could, they'd already be in the 22.

                The problem is not a lack of depth at the club; it's that we want to use it on a drip-feed, not all at once. I sure agree with you that I'll be worrying if we lose to the Saints, b/c I suspect that the Pahhhhhr's style of game is one that could potentially hurt us on the SCG if they get it right. And I don't think that we could do the Lazarus with the triple bypass thing, and make the top 4 in 2007 from 3-5.
                if i recall correctly, crouch and williams were both in the side when we won the premiership. maxfield had retired. those players are gone now (well crouch hasnt been able to get to full fitness).

                the thing with the eagles and depth is...take cox, kerr and judd out...and put seaby, priddis and stenglein in. these players are not close to the talent of the first 3 players but they can do a commendable job. with us...take hall, goodes and kirk out...and who do we bring in to back up for them.

                i wasnt saying if we took our best 3 players out either, i was saying if we had injuries to any players, whether it be jarrad mcveigh or adam goodes that it will hurt our side because of the amount of injuries sustained in the past few years we have not been able to expose many of our youngsters.

                not that theres anything wrong with stability.

                btw
                In : Brennan
                Out : Richards

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                • Chookbilly
                  Sniffing out the pill
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 393

                  #9
                  Originally posted by BBBBH
                  if i recall correctly, crouch and williams were both in
                  btw
                  In : Brennan
                  Out : Richards
                  Luke Brennan, I forgot about him.

                  Does anyone know how he's been going? Has he been getting a run in the reserves? if so, how does he look?
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                  • BBBBH
                    Warming the Bench
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 147

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Chookbilly
                    Luke Brennan, I forgot about him.

                    Does anyone know how he's been going? Has he been getting a run in the reserves? if so, how does he look?
                    he was ok at the hawks, i couldnt imagine him being worse than richards.

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                    • ScottH
                      It's Goodes to cheer!!
                      • Sep 2003
                      • 23665

                      #11
                      Originally posted by BBBBH
                      btw
                      In : Brennan
                      Out : Richards
                      Brennan is still on the Rookie list. And I doubt will be eleveated after Jack was last week.

                      And according to the reports Brennan has been disappointing in the reserves.

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                      • BBBBH
                        Warming the Bench
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 147

                        #12
                        Originally posted by ScottH
                        Brennan is still on the Rookie list. And I doubt will be eleveated after Jack was last week.

                        And according to the reports Brennan has been disappointing in the reserves.
                        thats disappointing to hear.

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                        • ScottH
                          It's Goodes to cheer!!
                          • Sep 2003
                          • 23665

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Chookbilly
                          Luke Brennan, I forgot about him.

                          Does anyone know how he's been going? Has he been getting a run in the reserves? if so, how does he look?
                          Check here

                          and

                          here for reserves reports.

                          You can also see previous Reserves reports from the here

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                          • DST
                            The voice of reason!
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 2705

                            #14
                            Originally posted by ScottH
                            Brennan is still on the Rookie list. And I doubt will be eleveated after Jack was last week.

                            And according to the reports Brennan has been disappointing in the reserves.
                            Brenan is three weeks back from a serious knee injury which has bothered him for the last 18 months.

                            Give him some time to get going again before we start describing him as disappointing.

                            DST
                            "Looking forward to a rebuilt, new, fast and exciting Swans model in 2010"

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                            • originalswan
                              On the Rookie List
                              • Aug 2004
                              • 550

                              #15
                              Knee?

                              Very disappointing!

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