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  • Go Swannies
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    • Sep 2003
    • 5697

    Drop Nick

    There seems to be a lot of anti Bevan sentiment on here from what I';ve read so far. I only saw the game on TV but it looked to me like Bevan was giving us a lot more than Nick Davis. For his natural skills, has he even got out of first gear - except the semi against the Cats?
  • liz
    Veteran
    Site Admin
    • Jan 2003
    • 16778

    #2
    Originally posted by Go Swannies
    There seems to be a lot of anti Bevan sentiment on here from what I';ve read so far. I only saw the game on TV but it looked to me like Bevan was giving us a lot more than Nick Davis. For his natural skills, has he even got out of first gear - except the semi against the Cats?


    He was dreadful last week but far from the worst tonight. There are another 15 or so blokes you'd look at first from tonight's game I reckon.

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    • Guzzitza
      On the Rookie List
      • Apr 2005
      • 272

      #3
      Flamebait

      Huh? Surely this is meant as flamebait...
      Davis did well tonight, he got involved and had more vision that most of players. He has a lot more skill in his right thumb than "Kamikaze" Bevan has in his whole body.
      What Bevan did tonight anyone could do, in fact I would argue Jack did just as much, and its only his second game.
      I'm Flyin' High...

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      • barry
        Veterans List
        • Jan 2003
        • 8499

        #4
        Davis did ok. Was choked by the game plan.

        Bevan did was he does best. Tackle and apply pressure. His kicking was its usual fluff but no one expects much else. People having a go at Bevan are really having a go at the selection panel as Bevan was never going to give us any more than he did.

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        • ROK Lobster
          RWO Life Member
          • Aug 2004
          • 8658

          #5
          Originally posted by Go Swannies
          There seems to be a lot of anti Bevan sentiment on here from what I';ve read so far. I only saw the game on TV but it looked to me like Bevan was giving us a lot more than Nick Davis. For his natural skills, has he even got out of first gear - except the semi against the Cats?
          Close to the dumbest post ever - seriously. If Davis is a waste of talent, Brett Kirk (and about 10 or so of the others) are a waste of hard work.

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          • sprite
            Regular in the Side
            • Jan 2003
            • 813

            #6
            I'm not a big fan of Nick, but he did contribute and was a link player when up the ground... let down by those further up the ground.

            He seemed to like the opportunity to roam and get the ball. Although as has been pointed out on other posts if BH has two opponnets - who is free??

            Bevan is a disgrace - at least Jack has inexeperience on his side.. and the potential to develop
            sprite

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            • Captain
              Captain of the Side
              • Feb 2004
              • 3602

              #7
              Originally posted by ROK Lobster
              Close to the dumbest post ever - seriously. If Davis is a waste of talent, Brett Kirk (and about 10 or so of the others) are a waste of hard work.

              I second that.

              Davis was easily one of our better players tonight. He has more skill in his little finger then Kirk, Bevan, Jack, Mathews, Bolton, McVeigh and Fosdike put together.

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              • Vivien
                On the Rookie List
                • Apr 2005
                • 261

                #8
                I thought Davis was decent tonight. Didn't have many opportunities, but then he rarely does. I noticed he was played out of position for a lot of the match (even had a stint in defence). Why Roos would waste a talent like that is beyond me. IMO he's the player around whom the forward line must be built once Hall and O'Laughlin are gone.

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                • NMWBloods
                  Taking Refuge!!
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 15819

                  #9
                  Davis was one of our best tonight.

                  Fifth highest possessions - only one bad one.

                  Two goals.

                  And one thing that most people miss is how much work he does off the ball. He is constantly used as a decoy forward making fake leads. He directs players into position to make gaps or fill them. He blocks for leading players - often blocking for Hall or O'Keefe when they lead.

                  I reckon he could do better, but I think the standard is set pretty high for him relative to some others (eg: Mathews, Crouch, J Bolton, Ablett, Bevan, Richards).
                  Last edited by NMWBloods; 12 May 2007, 10:50 PM.
                  Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

                  "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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                  • liz
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                    Site Admin
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 16778

                    #10
                    Originally posted by NMWBloods

                    Third highest possessions - only one bad one.
                    And if you're thinking of the same one that I am, it was more that he and Hall weren't on the same page in that particular piece of play rather than a skill error. Those things will happen occasionally when you're trying to create something but wouldn't overly blame those two players for that passage of play.

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                    • ROK Lobster
                      RWO Life Member
                      • Aug 2004
                      • 8658

                      #11
                      Originally posted by liz
                      And if you're thinking of the same one that I am, it was more that he and Hall weren't on the same page in that particular piece of play rather than a skill error. Those things will happen occasionally when you're trying to create something but wouldn't overly blame those two players for that passage of play.
                      It was one of those where I thought "bugger". It reminded me of a Ray Warren comment in a State of Origin once - "a beautiful pass, just no one there to take it".

                      He did give off a hospital hand pass to someone though.

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                      • NMWBloods
                        Taking Refuge!!
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 15819

                        #12
                        Originally posted by liz
                        And if you're thinking of the same one that I am, it was more that he and Hall weren't on the same page in that particular piece of play rather than a skill error. Those things will happen occasionally when you're trying to create something but wouldn't overly blame those two players for that passage of play.
                        No - I thought that was a clever kick (I was sitting right behind it and knew what he was doing), but unfortunately Hall doubled back at the last second. Just an unfortunate misunderstanding.

                        I was thinking of one where he handballed to Malceski under pressure (although to be fair Davis didn't really have too many other options).

                        What I like about Davis getting the ball is he nearly always does something positive and effective with it.
                        Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

                        "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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                        • Damien
                          Living in 2005
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 3713

                          #13
                          You got to your hotel room laptop quickly Kirky!!!

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                          • Go Swannies
                            Veterans List
                            • Sep 2003
                            • 5697

                            #14
                            When the midfield was playing kick to kick while waiting for the flood to subside inside our forward 50, I'm amazed that Nick would be third for Swans possessions tonight? I saw him play from our forward line back to defence and he seemed to be having fun running around but rarely being useful, except in his standard role as a loose forward.

                            Incidentally, was the first thing Esky did tonight exactly what everyone accused Bevan of being likely to do: running into pressure and kicking straight to a Saints player so it ricochetted for a goal?

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                            • NMWBloods
                              Taking Refuge!!
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 15819

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Go Swannies
                              When the midfield was playing kick to kick while waiting for the flood to subside inside our forward 50, I'm amazed that Nick would be third for Swans possessions tonight? I saw him play from our forward line back to defence and he seemed to be having fun running around but rarely being useful, except in his standard role as a loose forward.

                              Incidentally, was the first thing Esky did tonight exactly what everyone accused Bevan of being likely to do: running into pressure and kicking straight to a Saints player so it ricochetted for a goal?
                              I thought he was plenty useful. Two goals and two or three goal assists. Plus when he had the ball in the midfield he put it to position and forward.

                              BTW - it was 5th - I forgot about the cheap possessions that Barry and Eski picked up.
                              Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

                              "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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