Rate Roos Now

[Yakety_Yak]

No. I offer no comment. If I remained true to my views I would be accused of trolling here to gloat over the misfortunes of the team. If you want to know what I think, trawl back through the previous threads where I have had my say on this issue.

Well may I ask you the oh ...Spineless one that lives under a rock... if it was not Roos...

1.....Who would you suggest would be a better coach and why?

2.....Which coach has, in your expert opinion, performed better in a 4 year period?

3. .... Well?

[ROK Lobster]

Well may I ask you the oh ...Spineless one that lives under a rock... if it was not Roos...

1.....Who would you suggest would be a better coach and why?

2.....Which coach has, in your expert opinion, performed better in a 4 year period?

3. .... Well?

Read back through the threads. I have said all that I have to say on the issue, and consider that I showed plenty of backbone in doing so.

This thread is not anti-Roos. There are a range of options to choose from with options 8 through 3 offering real alternaives. 1, 2, 9 and 10 are all equally silly. I do not think that Roos deserves any of those 4 ratings at this stage (nor probably 3 or 7 to be honest). If you would like to proffer an alternate point of view, please do.

Edit: Looking at the options again, 8 and 9 should be switched. This is probably reflected in the voting pattern that is emerging anyway.

[DST]

With what Roos has had to work with, he has been by far the most outstanding coach over the last four years.

He turned things around after Eade was given his marching orders and was able to win a premiership with the neculeas that he inherited from the Eade era.

We now get the chance to see what he can do by taking what is there now and seeing if he can get the new group plus further additions back to the top.

That is a 24 month project and we will not be in a position to judge until at least the late rounds of the 2009 season.

DST

[NMWBloods]

Leigh Matthews has performed better in a four-year period!

[Swans_Lad11]

Cheers lads, this is my first post so G'Day

Anyway, personally I don't believe Roosey is to blame, quite frankly I was expecting a season something like this, though maybe not as dramatic, since the GF.

It is difficult to keep a team pumped week in week out after so much sucess in recent seasons and the injury run till recently was as good as it could get. I'm not blaming the players for lacking heart but maybe it might take a "down" season to just jolt everybody back into action. Personally I still believe Paul Roos to be one of the very best coaches currently in the AFL and if anybody can get the team back on its feet then Roosey will.

After the tremendous success we have had since the 2nd half of 2002 I think Roos and the rest of the lads can be allowed an ordinary season. It would be if we finish down where we are again (and thats even assuming we don't pick up during the run in this year) next season that maybe questions about if and what changers should be made.

Afterall, just look at Geelong. A team of which a lot has been expected and for a couple of seasons after 2004 delievered not a whole lot, didn't even make the finals last season. This year they sit atop the table with the same coach and basic playing group, just the kids are a little older and experienced, who's to say we don't have to go through the same pain for the same gain.

[DST]

Leigh Matthews has performed better in a four-year period!

Yep and I would rate the cattle Matthews had at his disposal alot better than what Roos has had for the same period.

DST

[swannieserin]

I think that if someone declares that they have achieved what they set out to achieve and that they will most likely go with the "current leadership group" (i.e., 2009), how can I be expected to take him seriously? In what job would you continue to be employed if you went to a performance review and said that?

I voted 3. He isn't willing to be innovative.

And any comparison to Sheedy is just embarrassing. You don't compare a senior coach of Roos' tenure to one of the greats of Australian Rules Football. No matter how nutty Sheeds might be, he is a genius. Look at his team this year. Look at his youngsters. He has long term vision not short term.

I think the next few weeks will show Roos' committment to the club and its success beyond his years. If he drops seniors (and I mean people other than Grundy or Schmidt) and if he starts to throw something new into the game plan then the signs are good. If he continues with The Plan (otherwise known as Plan A), and continues pushing the same 20ish players (Macca, J.Bolton etc), then I think there will be very dark times ahead.

[Yakety_Yak]

I think that if someone declares that they have achieved what they set out to achieve and that they will most likely go with the "current leadership group" (i.e., 2009), how can I be expected to take him seriously? In what job would you continue to be employed if you went to a performance review and said that?

I voted 3. He isn't willing to be innovative.

And any comparison to Sheedy is just embarrassing. You don't compare a senior coach of Roos' tenure to one of the greats of Australian Rules Football. No matter how nutty Sheeds might be, he is a genius. Look at his team this year. Look at his youngsters. He has long term vision not short term.

I think the next few weeks will show Roos' committment to the club and its success beyond his years. If he drops seniors (and I mean people other than Grundy or Schmidt) and if he starts to throw something new into the game plan then the signs are good. If he continues with The Plan (otherwise known as Plan A), and continues pushing the same 20ish players (Macca, J.Bolton etc), then I think there will be very dark times ahead.

Sheedy many years ago... and over his career... has achieved less than P Roos.
Refreshing that a guru will leave with the massive input he has put into a few and recognise that he cannot continue to give to all... and know when to call it

$1mill pa he has recently been offered ( mainstream OK maybe BS!) Freo ? Demons would pay it....

[swannieserin]

Sheedy many years ago... and over his career... has achieved less than P Roos.

Do you really believe that?

$1mill pa he has recently been offered ( mainstream OK maybe BS!) Freo ? Demons would pay it....

I have no idea if you are calling Roos a traitor/dumbass, or me, or Freo or the Demons. If its me, I don't care because I never swore allegiance to a coach, but to a sport. I wouldn't say Roos has done heaps for the sport, but he has definitely done a lot for the Swans. I'd say there is a fair difference.

[NMWBloods]

Sheedy many years ago... and over his career... has achieved less than P Roos.

Sheedy has 4 flags as coach. Roos has 1.

[Yakety_Yak]

Sheedy has 4 flags as coach. Roos has 1.

25 years divided by 4 = ?


btw I am Corpuscles on BF this is the most rediculous Mod Edit

Lobster can't reply to any critiscism Mod Edit

Hi Bloods *smile*

[NMWBloods]

You're much more reasonable on BF (never thought I'd say that).

BTW - from 1981 to 2000 is 20 years. Which is one per 5 years. Roos has one in four, looking like one in five. From 1981 to 1985 Sheedy had 2 in his first five years.

[CureTheSane]

And any comparison to Sheedy is just embarrassing. You don't compare a senior coach of Roos' tenure to one of the greats of Australian Rules Football. No matter how nutty Sheeds might be, he is a genius. Look at his team this year. Look at his youngsters. He has long term vision not short term.

Big deal.
Sheedy ALWAYS has a long term plan.
How many times have you heard the term 'baby Bombers'

I personally believe that Sheedy is overrated.
He isn't the coach he used to be.

[CureTheSane]

You have more faith than me... But I hope you're right and I'm wrong. I'll buy the first round if you are!

More people need to jump on this bandwagon

[Ludwig]

Why can't Sheedy and Roos both be great coaches, which I think they are.

Sheedy is a true legend. His challenge is whether he can develop a modern winning footy club and show he is not over the hill. Doing OK so far.

Roos took a group of players that nobody rated and turned them into champions. One of the great coaching accomplishments in recent times. His challenge is the one that is currently being discussed in footy circles today, basically, can he reinvent, reinvigorate the team. This is a wait and see situation.

Frankly, I just don't know. That's why he's the coach and I'm not.