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  • TheMase
    Senior Player
    • Jan 2003
    • 1207

    #16
    Originally posted by WASwansFanatic
    By all means give an opinion. But for some people, eg you, it is always a negative one.

    Do you ever say anything positive? Or is always negative sarcastic CRAP?
    Honestly, I don't post a whole lot. But I can't take many positives from last nights performance. Schmidt is the only positive in the whole lot, and the serial offenders from the past let us down again.

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    • ROK Lobster
      RWO Life Member
      • Aug 2004
      • 8658

      #17
      Originally posted by WASwansFanatic
      By all means give an opinion. But for some people, eg you, it is always a negative one.

      Do you ever say anything positive? Or is always negative sarcastic CRAP?
      Generally I consider it to be fairly balanced, though like most I tend to have more to say when things are going poorly, hence positive opinions on how to improve the team are generally negative of what is going on - just as your opinion that we should all blindly support the team regardless of how lacklustre or incompetent the performance is a negative observation of the behaviour of the majority of RWO.

      If all RWO was, was a place to list messages of support to players and adminstration that refuse to acknowledge that they view the site, it would be a pretty dull place. RWO is an online conversation bewteen people who share one thing in common. It is a plcae for people to throw around their ideas, about what they consider to be going right or wrong, and what they would like to see done to correct and improve it. If you do not like that then I am not sure what is to be done. In the middle of a season like this, most emphasis will be on what is wrong and what (in each individual's opinion) needs to be done.

      Maybe, rather than starting negative threads like this one you could get a bit positive and start a thread about what was encouraging in last night's game and what you consider would be the best thing the players and football staff could do to build on that? Or is it easier just to mouth off at others who can express an opinion without having to engage in any sort of dialogue with them?

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      • WASwansFanatic
        Up the mighty swannies!!!
        • Mar 2003
        • 440

        #18
        Originally posted by ROK Lobster
        Generally I consider it to be fairly balanced, though like most I tend to have more to say when things are going poorly, hence positive opinions on how to improve the team are generally negative of what is going on - just as your opinion that we should all blindly support the team regardless of how lacklustre or incompetent the performance is a negative observation of the behaviour of the majority of RWO.

        If all RWO was, was a place to list messages of support to players and adminstration that refuse to acknowledge that they view the site, it would be a pretty dull place. RWO is an online conversation bewteen people who share one thing in common. It is a plcae for people to throw around their ideas, about what they consider to be going right or wrong, and what they would like to see done to correct and improve it. If you do not like that then I am not sure what is to be done. In the middle of a season like this, most emphasis will be on what is wrong and what (in each individual's opinion) needs to be done.

        Maybe, rather than starting negative threads like this one you could get a bit positive and start a thread about what was encouraging in last night's game and what you consider would be the best thing the players and football staff could do to build on that? Or is it easier just to mouth off at others who can express an opinion without having to engage in any sort of dialogue with them?
        Is this not dialogue? I believe it is.

        I do however take your point re: RWO being a place to state opinions. Just seems to me that whenever we lose all of a sudden the place becomes a hive of over the top negativity.

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        • Damien
          Living in 2005
          • Jan 2003
          • 3713

          #19
          I think your best bet would be to simply not go to a supporters forum the day after a horrible loss that even our normally positive loving coach described as his worst yet and expect positive reactions.

          All well and good to want to be positive but I don't think hours after a horrific loss, starting a "shut up and be positive" thread was the smartest thing to do.

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          • Legs Akimbo
            Grand Poobah
            • Apr 2005
            • 2809

            #20
            Originally posted by WASwansFanatic
            Is this not dialogue? I believe it is.

            I do however take your point re: RWO being a place to state opinions. Just seems to me that whenever we lose all of a sudden the place becomes a hive of over the top negativity.
            Aside from general criticism, which is fair enough when you lose, I think you will find there a few key issues which people reasonably wish to discuss at the minute.

            1. Why do senior players with extended poor form not get dropped
            2. Why do our players persist in playing dumb footy
            3. Why does Paul Roos not have a plan B on game day

            These are reasonable things to discuss. Aside from these issues, people who post negative comments when we lost tend to post positive comments when we win. Or are you too busy reading the negative posts to notice?
            He had observed that people who did lie were, on the whole, more resourceful and ambitious and successful than people who did not lie.

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            • NMWBloods
              Taking Refuge!!
              • Jan 2003
              • 15819

              #21
              Originally posted by WASwansFanatic
              Well to be honest I am absolutely @@@@** sick of reading crap
              What do you suggest the forum is for if not for people to pass opinion on the team, players and game.

              Of course the ratio of negative comments to positive comments will be higher in general (people often use the forum to vent their frustration) but more so when the team is playing poorly.

              How are we meant to "support the team" - does making observations on poor play mean we are not supporters any more?
              Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

              "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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              • Swansinger
                Senior Player
                • Mar 2003
                • 1099

                #22
                Originally posted by WASwansFanatic
                So we are struggling at the moment. And everyone has vented their spleen. Can we just drop it now and support the team? I am sure all the players are more than aware that what they are delivering on the field is @@@@.

                Have confidence.......we will respond.
                Good point : I take it you will be coming to Kardinia Skilled Ford Park Stadium for Geelong game next week ?
                OK , Perth is a bit far - but I will be there next Saturday and cheering my guts out for my boys.

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                • WASwansFanatic
                  Up the mighty swannies!!!
                  • Mar 2003
                  • 440

                  #23
                  Unfortunately I wont be...I will however be there the following week at the SCG.

                  Hope the mighty Swannies win and you have a great time giving it to the Cats supporters!

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                  • satchmopugdog
                    Bandicoots ears
                    • Apr 2004
                    • 3691

                    #24
                    Originally posted by WASwansFanatic

                    Just seems to me that whenever we lose all of a sudden the place becomes a hive of over the top negativity.
                    I know that it does seem like this after a loss....but I find it better to vent my spleen here to the faceless masses and that lets me be a nicer person to my family. I am able to just shrug and say "Oh Well" and they think I have taken it well. Little do they know the angst I have poured out here.


                    I AM VERY, VERY FRUSTRATED,ANGRY,PEEVED and want the whole team dropped and the whole coaching staff sacked and Colless to go. Even Kenny can get lost. There that's better...ah
                    "The Dog days are over, The Dog days are gone" Florence and the Machine

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                    • AussieAnge
                      On the Rookie List
                      • Sep 2003
                      • 1057

                      #25
                      Originally posted by WASwansFanatic
                      Mate they are not hacks. Perhaps at this point in time they are playing like crap. But are you forgetting they have taken the mighty Swans to a premiership and a GF in the last two seasons.

                      You aren't a supporter......
                      IMHO they played like hacks last night. 3 scoring shots up to half time.
                      I don't see a problem with people criticising the team's performance and don't believe that it makes them any less a supporter. Have you never had cause to comment on a friend's/family member's/colleague's/classmate's behaviour? It is possible to still care for a person and still be critical of their behaviour and comment accordingly.
                      Bring it on!

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                      • WASwansFanatic
                        Up the mighty swannies!!!
                        • Mar 2003
                        • 440

                        #26
                        Perhaps I need to clarify what I said.... I dont mind people venting their spleen and being annoyed etc... I just find it ridiculous when all of a sudden people want to drop this person, get rid of that, sack Roos etc etc

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                        • barry
                          Veterans List
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 8499

                          #27
                          Originally posted by WASwansFanatic
                          So we are struggling at the moment. And everyone has vented their spleen. Can we just drop it now and support the team? I am sure all the players are more than aware that what they are delivering on the field is @@@@.

                          Have confidence.......we will respond.
                          64,222 people still have confidence, or they would'nt have turned up to freeze their nuts off watching rubish on the field.

                          Might be the biggest crowd we get for a while.

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                          • matthew smith
                            On the Rookie List
                            • Apr 2006
                            • 44

                            #28
                            i can't believe what i have been reading, have faith in the team, stick with them, it is very hard to stay at the top forever due to the draft and the salary cap, it has a effect on a lot of clubs, from now it's time to give the young kids a chance to perform at senior level. your thoughts.
                            m smith

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                            • NMWBloods
                              Taking Refuge!!
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 15819

                              #29
                              Did anyone say they were no longer supporting the team?
                              Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

                              "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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                              • 573v30
                                On the bandwagon...
                                • Sep 2005
                                • 5017

                                #30
                                Originally posted by WASwansFanatic
                                Perhaps I need to clarify what I said.... I dont mind people venting their spleen and being annoyed etc... I just find it ridiculous when all of a sudden people want to drop this person, get rid of that, sack Roos etc etc
                                There are plenty of threads/posts after every round and it's the same culprits mentioned e.g. Jude Bolton. Last night's game showed why they should be dropped to find some form.

                                Venting the spleen is one of the best things to do after watching a @@@@house performance.
                                I only support one team: The SYDNEY SWANS!!!!! :adore

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