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  • swantastic
    Veterans List
    • Jan 2006
    • 7275

    #46
    Originally posted by ScottH
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    Rnd	Name		P	Eff %	Clangers
    1	Nick Malceski	18	89	2 *
    2	Nick Malceski	24	92	1 *
    3	Nick Malceski	16	88	2 *
    4	Nick Malceski	20	85	0 *
    5	Nick Malceski	28	93	4 *
    6	Nick Malceski	15	80	2
    7	Nick Malceski	18	100	3
    8	Nick Malceski	22	100	0 *
    9	Nick Malceski	23	83	2
    10	Nick Malceski	22	55	6 *
    11	Nick Malceski	24	88	4 *
    12	Nick Malceski	21	81	4
    13	Nick Malceski	26	85	8
    * = When Kennelly Played.
    Lets put this onto perspective,Rnd 13 was in the pouring rain for a while so not the only one,Rnd10 against Bummers they were all crap and we had the umpires against us,Rnd12 the whole bloody team were atrocious.

    So on that he averages 2.92 Clangers/21.3 Disposals /86.07 Eff% per game and dont forget to take into account that a Free against counts as a clanger and we all know how crap the umpires are.The only poor game he has had this year was against the Bummers.

    What does Kennelly have to do with it,nothing.Clangers with Kennelly 19,Clangers with out 19.

    So on summary of Melcho's form this year i reckon it's been pretty bloody "Swantastic"
    Last edited by swantastic; 3 July 2007, 05:01 PM.
    Now this is a thread that i would expect on the ego -centric, wank session that is redandwhiteonline.com...

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    • reigning premier
      Suspended by the MRP
      • Sep 2006
      • 4335

      #47
      But the clangers are trending upward.....

      I wouldn't be pissing and moaning to much, they're still pretty damn good stats!! I don't think there would be many that would have better... Not in amongst the Swans at least!!

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      • NMWBloods
        Taking Refuge!!
        • Jan 2003
        • 15819

        #48
        Originally posted by swantastic
        Yeh his clangers are up to about 1 a week now and his efficiency is down to about 90% yeh he's really bad.
        Why do people always turn relative measures into absolute measures!?!
        Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

        "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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        • swantastic
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          • Jan 2006
          • 7275

          #49
          Originally posted by NMWBloods
          Why do people always turn relative measures into absolute measures!?!
          To prove a point.
          Now this is a thread that i would expect on the ego -centric, wank session that is redandwhiteonline.com...

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          • Bloody Hell
            Senior Player
            • Oct 2006
            • 3085

            #50
            Originally posted by Marry me Goodes
            Oh, I must be wrong then.
            That's funny stuff.
            The eternal connundrum "what happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object" was finally solved when David Hasselhoff punched himself in the face.

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            • dread and might
              Back, strapped and intact
              • Apr 2004
              • 949

              #51
              page 1: discussion
              skip to last page: personal attacks. This place is becoming BF.

              On another note regarding the stats, forgive my ignorance but how can you have 100% efficiency and 3 clangers?

              Finally, onto the actual topic, People, including myself, have been beating the "kenelly to a wing" drum for years. What are the chances of Malceski going there instead? Who would be better suited to the position? and; Is either likely to happen?
              Last edited by dread and might; 4 July 2007, 10:08 AM.
              I wish my weed was EMO so it would cut itself

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              • Plugger46
                Senior Player
                • Apr 2003
                • 3674

                #52
                Originally posted by Nico
                Did someone say Bevan was a defender?
                Killed Leon Davis two weeks ago. Davis is no worldbeater, but he can be dangerous.

                Bevan is pretty ordinary but I've seen plenty worse.
                Bloods

                "Lockett is the best of all time" - Robert Harvey, Darrel Baldock, Nathan Burke, Kevin Bartlett, Bob Skilton

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                • NMWBloods
                  Taking Refuge!!
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 15819

                  #53
                  Originally posted by swantastic
                  To prove a point.
                  I don't understand what the point is you're meant to be proving...
                  Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

                  "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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                  • ScottH
                    It's Goodes to cheer!!
                    • Sep 2003
                    • 23665

                    #54
                    Originally posted by swantastic
                    Lets put this onto perspective,Rnd 13 was in the pouring rain for a while so not the only one,Rnd10 against Bummers they were all crap and we had the umpires against us,Rnd12 the whole bloody team were atrocious.
                    Yep those things don't help, but he had 16 clangers in 9 round, then 22 in the next 4. Maybe there are a number of factors that you could reason for that. I thought it showed how the team has performed in relation to Maceski's form. Maybe he is taking more risks thus causing more clangers.

                    So on that he averages 2.92 Clangers/21.3 Disposals /86.07 Eff% per game and dont forget to take into account that a Free against counts as a clanger and we all know how crap the umpires are.The only poor game he has had this year was against the Bummers.
                    Agree, he has been excellent. Probably the best swan out there. However, his good decisions/plays are starting to be overlooked by the bad ones.

                    What does Kennelly have to do with it,nothing.Clangers with Kennelly 19,Clangers with out 19.
                    I was looking to see if their was a correlation between Kennelly missing and Malceski being under more pressure than when Tadhg plays. But it doesn't.

                    So on summary of Melcho's form this year i reckon it's been pretty bloody "Swantastic"
                    Bloody Oath.

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                    • liz
                      Veteran
                      Site Admin
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 16773

                      #55
                      Originally posted by ScottH
                      Maybe he is taking more risks thus causing more clangers.
                      In general he takes more risks than most Swans - it is unreasonable, for instance, to compare his clanger rate with players who play it safe and rarely create anything extraordinary when they take a risk and it comes off.

                      My impression is that he's been taking a few more risks in recent weeks, maybe as a response to Kennelly not being there (his speed helps the defence clear the ball quite often and without it they have to find other ways) but also quite probably as a result of so few other players busting a gut to make things happen. Add to the mix the fact that at the start of the year few teams would have explicitly planned for how to pressurise him, and now the probably are, it's not surprising that he's been unable to maintain the impeccable level of disposal of earlier in the year.

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                      • NMWBloods
                        Taking Refuge!!
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 15819

                        #56
                        Exactly.
                        Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

                        "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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                        • ScottH
                          It's Goodes to cheer!!
                          • Sep 2003
                          • 23665

                          #57
                          Originally posted by liz
                          In general he takes more risks than most Swans - it is unreasonable, for instance, to compare his clanger rate with players who play it safe and rarely create anything extraordinary when they take a risk and it comes off.
                          True. As he has gained more confidence, he makes more plays. Also players with the highest clangers, usually get the ball a lot and usuually under pressure.

                          My impression is that he's been taking a few more risks in recent weeks, maybe as a response to Kennelly not being there (his speed helps the defence clear the ball quite often and without it they have to find other ways) but also quite probably as a result of so few other players busting a gut to make things happen. Add to the mix the fact that at the start of the year few teams would have explicitly planned for how to pressurise him, and now the probably are, it's not surprising that he's been unable to maintain the impeccable level of disposal of earlier in the year.
                          That's why I highlighted the Kennelly games. More responsibility would have fallen his way, which could add to the pressure.

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                          • Xie Shan
                            Senior Player
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 2929

                            #58
                            Originally posted by ScottH
                            True. As he has gained more confidence, he makes more plays. Also players with the highest clangers, usually get the ball a lot and usuually under pressure.
                            Yep. Though watching him this year, I've found it easy to forget he hasn't played 50 games yet, so there's probably a learning curve in there as well, where he will learn from his mistakes. I noticed he got caught HTB a few times (including the one where he lost his guernsey) from being too slow to dispose of the ball.

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                            • swantastic
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                              • Jan 2006
                              • 7275

                              #59
                              Originally posted by dread and might
                              page 1: discussion
                              skip to last page: personal attacks. This place is becoming BF.

                              On another note regarding the stats, forgive my ignorance but how can you have 100% efficiency and 3 clangers?

                              Finally, onto the actual topic, People, including myself, have been beating the "kenelly to a wing" drum for years. What are the chances of Malceski going there instead? Who would be better suited to the position? and; Is either likely to happen?
                              Because Free's against count as clangers,so he might have had 3 free's against.
                              Now this is a thread that i would expect on the ego -centric, wank session that is redandwhiteonline.com...

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                              • swantastic
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                                • Jan 2006
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                                #60
                                Originally posted by NMWBloods
                                I don't understand what the point is you're meant to be proving...
                                It was just a figure of speech.
                                Now this is a thread that i would expect on the ego -centric, wank session that is redandwhiteonline.com...

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