How Slow Is Mcveigh!!!!

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  • SimonH
    Salt future's rising
    • Aug 2004
    • 1647

    #46
    This is as timely a moment as we'll get for this one, as our captain capped another solid game with a classic roving-from-the-tap goal in the last quarter to put the final nail in our defeat of a Port Adelaide side for whom Steven Salopek wasn't picked to play. Nor was Mr Salopek named among the best players for his SANFL side.

    I know that it's against the rules of the interweb to pull up 'told you so' threads from years ago, but I don't bring this up to have a go at Jeffers1984 or anyone else. I bring it up to emphasise the near-impossible job that recruiters have, when even with the benefit of 5+ years of hindsight there can be major differences of opinion as to whether a correct decision has been made. At the same time, the wheel can turn brutally fast and the game has no qualms about turning yesterday's rooster into today's feather duster.

    We're only a few months from it being a whole freakin' decade since the 2002 draft, and no doubt some around Port would still argue that Steven Salopek can be a player who can be an integral part of a successful Pahhhhr team, and perhaps even take a leadership role in it. And maybe they're right.

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    • DeadlyAkkuret
      Veterans List
      • Oct 2006
      • 4547

      #47
      I'm a fan, I wasn't always a fan and I don't know if I posted in this thread earlier but he's a classy ball user and even though he has his flaws I think he makes a very good co-captain. McVeigh generally starts games well and tapers off, but he sets us up and he's shown on a number of occasions that he can remain calm when the opposition are coming hard at us.

      I'd back him to stand up when it matters most of the time and in a team that has some pretty poor kicks he's a gem. Let's see how he goes against the Kangaroos in the absence of Goodes, because I'm sure he'll deliver again.

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      • aardvark
        Veterans List
        • Mar 2010
        • 5685

        #48
        Originally posted by reigning premier
        Perhaps he has not yet fully recovered physcologically and is still afraid of the contest as a result???
        Macca still avoids the contest but has played some seriously good footy during the last few years as well. Its hard to judge his worth as a captain but the players seem to respond well to him.

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        • Big Al
          Veterans List
          • Feb 2005
          • 7007

          #49
          Originally posted by aardvark
          Macca still avoids the contest but has played some seriously good footy during the last few years as well. Its hard to judge his worth as a captain but the players seem to respond well to him.
          Certainly not saying your wrong but I haven't noticed this. (with my eyesight that isn't a shock)

          I'll have to watch Macca a bit more closely.

          I had misgivings about him as a captain but the 2 captain model seems to work for him.
          ..And the Swans are the Premiers...The Ultimate Team...The Ultimate Warriors. They have overcome the highly fancied Hawks in brilliant style. Sydney the 2012 Premiers - Gerard Whately ABC

          Here it is Again! - Huddo SEN

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          • wolftone57
            Veterans List
            • Aug 2008
            • 5857

            #50
            Al I have noticed on certain occasions that he doesn't seem to like body on body or meeting oncoming traffic. But I believe this to be more a judgement thing and also to do with having a light frame. Some players are not meant to be Daniel Hannaberry, Luke Parker, Jude Bolton etc they just aren't built that way. Some players are the type that will go anywhere at the risk of their lives and other players aren't. I don't deny that I would love to see Macca make more of a contest on occasions when the body needs to be met but it isn't in his skill basket. Every time I have seen him go in for any of that type of contact he is awkward, in danger of extinction and gives away frees. He is an outside mid and he plays that game well. I love his delivery, skills and he always does something exceptional.

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            • goswannie14
              Leadership Group
              • Sep 2005
              • 11166

              #51
              Originally posted by wolftone57
              Al I have noticed on certain occasions that he doesn't seem to like body on body or meeting oncoming traffic. But I believe this to be more a judgement thing and also to do with having a light frame. Some players are not meant to be Daniel Hannaberry, Luke Parker, Jude Bolton etc they just aren't built that way. Some players are the type that will go anywhere at the risk of their lives and other players aren't. I don't deny that I would love to see Macca make more of a contest on occasions when the body needs to be met but it isn't in his skill basket. Every time I have seen him go in for any of that type of contact he is awkward, in danger of extinction and gives away frees. He is an outside mid and he plays that game well. I love his delivery, skills and he always does something exceptional.
              Very well summed up Wolfy.
              Does God believe in Atheists?

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              • Plugger46
                Senior Player
                • Apr 2003
                • 3674

                #52
                I'm a fan and have been for a long time now. I do think he could be better though. He's got all the attributes to be a star and I don't think you could put him in that category.
                Bloods

                "Lockett is the best of all time" - Robert Harvey, Darrel Baldock, Nathan Burke, Kevin Bartlett, Bob Skilton

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                • Melbourne_Blood
                  Senior Player
                  • May 2010
                  • 3312

                  #53
                  Yeah I agree, after that stand out year in 2008 (I think ) where he was getting touches and kicking goals consistently I thought he had made the step up to elite. He seems to have dropped back down since then to just a good footballer, but not a game breaker. He hasn't dominated a game in a long time. I'd like to see him kick more goals. We know he's capable of it.

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                  • Ruck'n'Roll
                    Ego alta, ergo ictus
                    • Nov 2003
                    • 3990

                    #54
                    Geez, talk about some blasts from the past, NMWBloods, wow!
                    What's next a thread from Footyhead?
                    Actually when I opened this thread I failed to notice the date on the entries, I was just thinking "God, look at all this horrendous negativity. It's as bad as when I left RWO 5 years ago." Then I looked at the date and noticed it was 5 years ago. LOL

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                    • Dosser
                      Just wild about Harry
                      • Mar 2011
                      • 1833

                      #55
                      Originally posted by Ruck'n'Roll
                      Geez, talk about some blasts from the past, NMWBloods, wow!
                      What's next a thread from Footyhead?
                      Actually when I opened this thread I failed to notice the date on the entries, I was just thinking "God, look at all this horrendous negativity. It's as bad as when I left RWO 5 years ago." Then I looked at the date and noticed it was 5 years ago. LOL
                      Yeah, that's obviously from when this site USED to be negative.

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                      • Ruck'n'Roll
                        Ego alta, ergo ictus
                        • Nov 2003
                        • 3990

                        #56
                        Different perspectives, different points of view.

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                        • Hartijon
                          On the Rookie List
                          • May 2008
                          • 1536

                          #57
                          Originally posted by Ruck'n'Roll
                          Geez, talk about some blasts from the past, NMWBloods, wow!
                          What's next a thread from Footyhead?
                          Actually when I opened this thread I failed to notice the date on the entries, I was just thinking "God, look at all this horrendous negativity. It's as bad as when I left RWO 5 years ago." Then I looked at the date and noticed it was 5 years ago. LOL
                          My thoughts exactly.We must be travelling well for this old chesnut to be revived.Mind you after 8 days on Paradise island (No I will not tell you where!) I am so mellow I am starting to think Everitt is a good player too.

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                          • ShockOfHair
                            One Man Out
                            • Dec 2007
                            • 3668

                            #58
                            Roos said during the Freo game that McVeigh is the side's best decision-maker.

                            He does use the ball really well.

                            I don't get nervous with the ball in his hands as I do for AJ (the last couple of weeks), Reg (occasionally) and McGlynn (always).
                            The man who laughs has not yet heard the terrible news

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                            • RogueSwan
                              McVeigh for Brownlow
                              • Apr 2003
                              • 4602

                              #59
                              Originally posted by Plugger46
                              I'm a fan and have been for a long time now. ....
                              Me too, I don't think I have changed my avatar comment for at least 5 years. Then again, one of the reasons I originally did it was to help offset all of the Macca haters, but I did believe he had the potential to be very good.
                              "Fortunately, this is the internet, so knowing nothing is no obstacle to having an opinion!." Beerman 18-07-2017

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                              • sharp9
                                Senior Player
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 2508

                                #60
                                I think, by and large, that Macca is quality. His problem is that he doesn't get the ball enough. Often goes missing for half a game.
                                "I'll acknowledge there are more talented teams in the competition but I won't acknowledge that there is a better team in the competition" Paul Roos March 2005

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