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  • MadCanuck
    Warming the Bench
    • Mar 2009
    • 138

    #61
    I don't it's McVeigh that's changed, it's the way the game is now being played. With all sides implementing the same pressure tactics and numbers around the stoppages, McVeigh just doesn't have the build or the opportunities to create the space he needs to be more effective.

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    • The_Jam
      On the Rookie List
      • Sep 2011
      • 36

      #62
      I know stats don't tell the whole story, but looking at this year's, he has 64 total possessions, 21 being contested, at just over 71% disposal efficiently. I think this supports the idea that he is playing aright, if not setting the world on fire. I think it also suggests that he is a bit more of an inside/outside player rather than being one or the other.

      Some perspective: the outside player player Jetta has 44, 14 CP at 75%. And the inside superstar JPK has 90, 55 CP at 65%. Though, Jetta has 9 tackles and McVeigh only has 6. I don't think McVeigh would want to be out-tackled by a half-forward/flanker who weighs 30 grams.

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      • Beerman
        Regular in the Side
        • Oct 2010
        • 823

        #63
        Originally posted by The_Jam
        Some perspective: the outside player player Jetta has 44, 14 CP at 75%. And the inside superstar JPK has 90, 55 CP at 65%. Though, Jetta has 9 tackles and McVeigh only has 6. I don't think McVeigh would want to be out-tackled by a half-forward/flanker who weighs 30 grams.
        That's a bit harsh. Jetta's put on a lot of muscle over summer and must now weigh at least as much as a stick of butter (250g)!

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        • jono2707
          Goes up to 11
          • Oct 2007
          • 3326

          #64
          McVeigh is playing a sort of quarterback role off the half backline in a similar way to Yarran, Deledio, and also what Jared Brennan is now doing for the Suns. It's not a bash and crash sort of role and none of those guys are overly physical, but they're all considered to be good players. I think he's playing a very effective role and in the whole his disposal and decision making has been pretty good so far...

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          • Triple B
            Formerly 'BBB'
            • Feb 2003
            • 6999

            #65
            Originally posted by jono2707
            McVeigh is playing a sort of quarterback role off the half backline in a similar way to Yarran, Deledio, and Jared Brennan .....
            You can't mention quarterback without mentioning Bevo.

            One of the all time funny threads when connolly christened him the champion little quarterback....lol
            Driver of the Dan Hannebery bandwagon....all aboard. 4th April 09

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            • Dosser
              Just wild about Harry
              • Mar 2011
              • 1833

              #66
              OK, my pet peeve - there are NO quarterbacks in AUSTRALIAN rules. The sooner those Americanised commentators dump the term, the sooner we can let our midfielders get the ball to the punters in the forward zone.

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              • Cpt. Kirk
                Warming the Bench
                • Feb 2011
                • 351

                #67
                Originally posted by Dosser
                we can let our midfielders get the ball to the punters in the forward zone.
                oh lawd

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                • The_Jam
                  On the Rookie List
                  • Sep 2011
                  • 36

                  #68
                  From memory, I believe McVeigh has played forward and a little in the middle as well. But if you want to compare him to a offensive HB setting up scoring movements (avoiding the QB title, even though I don't mind it) Mal has 65, 17 CP at 81% with 9 tackles, which again is not the whole story, but at least suggests he is playing that role better than McVeigh. The latter has a couple more goals, and a few more CP. As I said, from memory, he as played around the ground a bit, so I think we can add versatility to McVeigh's tool-box.

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                  • Big Al
                    Veterans List
                    • Feb 2005
                    • 7007

                    #69
                    Originally posted by Dosser
                    OK, my pet peeve - there are NO quarterbacks in AUSTRALIAN rules. The sooner those Americanised commentators dump the term, the sooner we can let our midfielders get the ball to the punters in the forward zone.
                    There was a US commentator a few years back that said the Patriots had to do something about the Packers Tight End. Would have that was an issue for the doctors but Grid ironing isn't my thing.
                    ..And the Swans are the Premiers...The Ultimate Team...The Ultimate Warriors. They have overcome the highly fancied Hawks in brilliant style. Sydney the 2012 Premiers - Gerard Whately ABC

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                    • jono2707
                      Goes up to 11
                      • Oct 2007
                      • 3326

                      #70
                      Originally posted by Dosser
                      OK, my pet peeve - there are NO quarterbacks in AUSTRALIAN rules. The sooner those Americanised commentators dump the term, the sooner we can let our midfielders get the ball to the punters in the forward zone.
                      Was that an offensive or de-fensive line????

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                      • Dosser
                        Just wild about Harry
                        • Mar 2011
                        • 1833

                        #71
                        Originally posted by jono2707
                        Was that an offensive or de-fensive line????
                        Aaaargh! My buttons!

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                        • ernie koala
                          Senior Player
                          • May 2007
                          • 3251

                          #72
                          I must admit I was always scathing of him in those early days....slow and soft.
                          But like a sore back, I've kinda got used to him.
                          Hope he has a blinder on the weekend.
                          Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect... MT

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                          • Swansinger
                            Senior Player
                            • Mar 2003
                            • 1099

                            #73
                            Originally posted by Dosser
                            OK, my pet peeve - there are NO quarterbacks in AUSTRALIAN rules. The sooner those Americanised commentators dump the term, the sooner we can let our midfielders get the ball to the punters in the forward zone.
                            Spot on !
                            The best word would be "playmaker".
                            And while we're at it , let"s ditch DEE-fence and O-FFENSE.
                            It's "di (short "i") fence" and ATTACK.

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                            • Bloody Hell
                              Senior Player
                              • Oct 2006
                              • 3085

                              #74
                              Best small forward in the team. Shame he doesn't play up front....
                              The eternal connundrum "what happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object" was finally solved when David Hasselhoff punched himself in the face.

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                              • Swansinger
                                Senior Player
                                • Mar 2003
                                • 1099

                                #75
                                Originally posted by Swansinger
                                Spot on !
                                The best word would be "playmaker".
                                And while we're at it , let"s ditch DEE-fence and O-FFENSE.
                                It's "di (short "i") fence" and ATTACK.
                                Oh , hang on - you said "punters".Very witty , sorry I missed it !

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