How Slow Is Mcveigh!!!!

[swanspant12]

When is Clementine's baby due? I remember hearing early July... it must be weighing on his mind for obvious reasons. I really like Macca, and I know he is a highly respected player and leader within the football club, but he's never been the kind of player that's been able to have a huge influence on a game on his own. I wonder if giving up the captaincy might free him up a bit to focus on his football. With Goodes coming back, Jude as one of the spiritual leaders of the team could quite easily step up and would be more than qualified as a co-captain. I recall this was one of the factors in Maxfield's decision to step down in 2005 (although under very different circumstances) so he could spend more time with his kids. A player's duty should be to his family first, football club second.

x1000. Footballers are normal people with normal emotions. Macca is a brilliant leader, and he might not be our best player but he is a leader and you need them on the field.

[Bleed Red Blood]

speaking of slow - hannerbery being beaten to the ball as it bounced toward our goal by carlisle was disappointing

[4 the Bloods]

im still worried about Macca being over taken by some our players emerging in the midfield

In the Bombers game Stanton was going straight passed him on the wknd and Stanton is by no means one of the quickest midfielders............other contested situations Macca was simply out paced to the ball.

Criticising McVeigh for this week's performance is crazy. The ABC commentators had him just behind Jetta for BOG. People who don't watch a lot of footy outside the Swans may not realise the sort of form Stanton has been in this year. McVeigh played most of the game on Stanton who has averaged 28 touches a game and kept him to 19 while racking up 25 himself.

Just to put it into context some highlights for Stanton this year (yes I know stats don't tell the whole story, particularly dreamteam/supercoach points, but this is an impressive set of numbers in anyone's language):

Ranked 7th in Total Inside 50s;
Ranked 1st in Total Kicks;
Ranked 6th in Total Disposals;
Ranked 1st in Total Marks;
Ranked 2nd in Total Supercoach Score;
Ranked 1st in Total Dreamteam Score;
Ranked 15th in Inside 50s Per Game;
Ranked 2nd in Kicks Per Game;
Ranked 9th in Disposals Per Game;
Ranked 4th in Marks Per Game
Ranked 6th in Supercoach Score Per Game;
Ranked 3rd in Dreamteam Score Per Game

[Jewels]

I am anything but a McVeigh fan and certainly don't think he is a particularly good on field leader, but he played a wonderful game on Saturday night, completely nullifying Stanton whilst impacting the game himself. Can't ask much more of a footballer then that!

[Captain]

I think he has been playing reasonably well.

If pace is a concern, maybe some of you should turn your attention to Hanners....

[aardvark]

I am anything but a McVeigh fan and certainly don't think he is a particularly good on field leader, but he played a wonderful game on Saturday night, completely nullifying Stanton whilst impacting the game himself. Can't ask much more of a footballer then that!

Agree. He was excellent.

[jono2707]

How about changing the title of this thread to 'How effective is McVeigh?'. It's been an interesting discussion - I'll have to watch the game again, well at least 3 quarters, and focus on what he did to stop Stanton. Often players performing stopping roles (variously McVeigh, Smith, Jack, Rhyce etc) can be overlooked until you have a close look at the impact they had on the outcome of the game - stats don't always paint the whole picture. Whilst McVeigh is not a tough in-and-under type, I think he is showing additional maturity as a player this year and he often pops up in the right place at the right time.....

[ernie koala]

I am anything but a McVeigh fan and certainly don't think he is a particularly good on field leader, but he played a wonderful game on Saturday night, completely nullifying Stanton whilst impacting the game himself. Can't ask much more of a footballer then that!

I agree, he played an excellent game.
Tagging seems the best option for McVeigh, he does it well.

[aardvark]

The good thing about him tagging is that he can't go missing without it being very obvious.

[gumby_bolts]

Like Jewels I'm not much of a fan but he was so effective on Saturday. It also looks like to me that he did that shut-down role while by playing with an injury. Didn't he go down to the rooms in the third quarter? And if you watch the replay, when all the boys are coming off at the end and walking to the rooms it looks like he might have a injured/sore groin. Explains some of his field kicking this season.

[Doctor]

I agree with recent posts, he was very good on Saturday night. Stanton was largely neutralised and Macca still got plenty of the footy himself. It's important to have a look at where he is playing and what his role is on any given week before judging how he's going.

[Mountain Man]

and surely his role needed to change with Parker and McGlynn out - did the team thing well, it seemed to me

[Nico]

He got in the coaches votes this week.

[Matt79]

Someone may have wrote about this earlier in this thread but I am not shifting bck to see

Did anyone notice Macca head off to the rooms in the last quarter on Saturday night? He was also seen holding his groin. I wonder if he has had a groin issue or whether he picked something up on Saturday night? The bye may have come at the perfect time.

Could explain why he may seemed slightly off the pace too?

[Nico]

Someone may have wrote about this earlier in this thread but I am not shifting bck to see

Did anyone notice Macca head off to the rooms in the last quarter on Saturday night? He was also seen holding his groin. I wonder if he has had a groin issue or whether he picked something up on Saturday night? The bye may have come at the perfect time.

Could explain why he may seemed slightly off the pace too?

Probably went for a pee.