Richard Hinds implies some Swans players are using illegal substances

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  • timthefish
    Regular in the Side
    • Sep 2003
    • 940

    #31
    Originally posted by giant
    So, by all means, don't be blind enough to accept that they're all squeaky clean angels but also don't assume that every club shares the Eagles' culture on this point.
    yes, i think that is only fair.
    then again, i think it would be worth trying 15-16 players on field so what would i know

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    • NMWBloods
      Taking Refuge!!
      • Jan 2003
      • 15819

      #32
      Originally posted by giant
      And it would be wrong to compare any such issues with what's happened at the Eagles. This wasn't a case of a few youngsters having a cheeky joint at a Sunday summer barbecue at Cottesloe.
      No - it's definitely nowhere near as bad you'd think. However, it's also not the case that all of the Eagles are doped up on drugs most of the time, as some like to imply or state.
      Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

      "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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      • timthefish
        Regular in the Side
        • Sep 2003
        • 940

        #33
        Originally posted by NMWBloods
        No - it's definitely nowhere near as bad you'd think. However, it's also not the case that all of the Eagles are doped up on drugs most of the time, as some like to imply or state.
        without doubt, most of the eagles are being unfairly judged by many.
        then again, i think it would be worth trying 15-16 players on field so what would i know

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        • swantastic
          Veterans List
          • Jan 2006
          • 7275

          #34
          Originally posted by timthefish
          without doubt, most of the eagles are being unfairly judged by many.
          Who cares there drug cheats,and if the shoe was on the other foot we would be copping it from their supporters too and the media.
          Now this is a thread that i would expect on the ego -centric, wank session that is redandwhiteonline.com...

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          • timthefish
            Regular in the Side
            • Sep 2003
            • 940

            #35
            Originally posted by swantastic
            Who cares there drug cheats,and if the shoe was on the other foot we would be copping it from their supporters too and the media.
            oh. well that's that complex social issue sorted out then.
            then again, i think it would be worth trying 15-16 players on field so what would i know

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            • Chow-Chicker
              Senior Player
              • Jun 2006
              • 1602

              #36
              Originally posted by CureTheSane
              Well, here's my opinion for the hell of it.

              I think anyone found with illegal drugs should be dealt with by the police.
              That is, if the police find drugs on them and decide to charge them, then that is their matter.

              It's a complete joke that anyone's employer (for instance the Swans) has the right to test their employees (the players) without reasonable cause.

              If they have concerns, then the player agrees to a test, and they are dealt with either in house, or the Swans reports the offender to the police.

              The fact that a governing body (the AFL) has the right to randomly test players is ridiculous.
              There was a reference to Big Brother made long before the TV show - this is just another instance of fiction becoming reality.

              One could argue that the Swans would have had a great case for testing Dale Lewis given that he was always 2 steps behind.

              I don't understand all the Ben Cousins hating.
              I would have much preferred he get so warped on drugs that he is sacked from the Eagles and then is picked up by the Swans for next to nothing and they help him back into drug free form.

              Having said that I hope he plays like crap on the weekend
              Some Companies do test their employees for drugs and alcohol i.e Trucking Companies. Every organisation has a Drugs and Alcohol Policy, but it has been very rarely tested in the past. Organisations have every right to test their employees if they suspect a breach. If the employee refuses, the employer can refer the matter to the police.

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              • Ruda Wakening
                Survived The Meltdown
                • Aug 2003
                • 1519

                #37
                Originally posted by timthefish
                oh. well that's that complex social issue sorted out then.
                LOL.
                Sit down or i swear to God i'll have you shot.

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                • Layby
                  Suspended by the MRP
                  • May 2006
                  • 1803

                  #38
                  Originally posted by Chow-Chicker
                  Organisations have every right to test their employees if they suspect a breach. If the employee refuses, the employer can refer the matter to the police.
                  No they dont, again, you are very much mistaken.

                  Any individual has the right to refer any matter to the police, it is whether they choose to act on it. Which they would not, unless there was substantial evidence a crime had been committed.

                  An employee refusing a drug test is not a crime in Australia as far as i am aware.

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                  • hot potato
                    Sir Ashmole Gruntbucket
                    • Jun 2007
                    • 1122

                    #39
                    Kerr on Cousins in todays Australian newspaper:
                    "He can push himself further than any player I have seen."

                    He will be trying very hard to replicate that totally clean. Good luck Ben.

                    And well done Kirk and the vast majority who push themselves hard week in week out.
                    "He was proud of us when we won and he was still proud of us when we lost' Tami Roos about Paul Sept 06.

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                    • Bloody Hell
                      Senior Player
                      • Oct 2006
                      • 3085

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Bleed Red Blood
                      Nerves might be a bigger issue, but I reckon the guy is cool enough to go out there and slot a couple of goals no worries.
                      Particularly if he has something to take the "edge" off.
                      The eternal connundrum "what happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object" was finally solved when David Hasselhoff punched himself in the face.

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                      • Wardy
                        The old Boiler!
                        • Sep 2003
                        • 6676

                        #41
                        Originally posted by cruiser
                        Richard Hinds really is an arse. In the linked article about Cousins return to football he states



                        I think that this is a very serious allegation to be making and by using the plural, he is suggesting more than one of Sydney's players might be using illegal drugs. If he has evidence, he should spit it out. If he doesnt, he should shut the ***k up. If I were the club, I'd be making an official complaint about this.

                        http://realfooty.com.au/news/news/co...559870144.html
                        well the way the Swans played last night - obviously they are not performance enhancing substances.
                        I used to be indecisive, but now I'm not so sure..................
                        Chickens drink - but they don't pee!
                        AGE IS ONLY IMPORTANT FOR TWO THINGS - WINE & CHEESE!

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                        • reigning premier
                          Suspended by the MRP
                          • Sep 2006
                          • 4335

                          #42
                          Originally posted by Chow-Chicker
                          Some Companies do test their employees for drugs and alcohol i.e Trucking Companies. Every organisation has a Drugs and Alcohol Policy, but it has been very rarely tested in the past. Organisations have every right to test their employees if they suspect a breach. If the employee refuses, the employer can refer the matter to the police.
                          Thankfully, Not in this country tiger......

                          Players and athletes only get tested because it's a part of their contract. Not because of some load of bollocks policy dreamt up by a fanciful HR department.

                          They may very well be able to report an enployee to the police, but once the police stop laughing, and the employer has finished having his ass sued off him for defamation, he may want to revisit his/her policy just slightly....

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