Pies match thread

[Captain]

Add poor coaching to the list.

[Margie]

There is nothing to suggest we will make an impression in finals. That was a year ago. We have been generally ordinary this year.

Agreed. Just look at Geelong, and the way West Coast played against the Saints last night.

[Melbournehammer]

Jude is not worth trading as we would get nothing for him. The real problem is that he should be plyed on the ball and not as a defensive forward. He is capable of getting the ball in contests but he is a terrible kick. He is just unable to pass or kick at goal with any accuracy. i think there were 2 goals kicked directly from his kicks favouring the defender

Anyway the main issues are :

1. we have appalling skills. When we do get it schneider misses a free man crouch misses a free man and so on. two years ago we had the best skills in the league, we now have amongst the worst

2. we desperately miss the running defenders of kennelly and barry - you could tell in the first half that we would get the ball and stop and have nithing to kick to, nothing to run to and a general lack of faith.

3. our inability to get the ball unless kirk or goodes get it is just embarassing. we desperately need a cresswell type player.

4. the lack of speed on the forward line is a huge problem. two often the ball would have collingwood players get to the ball and make something that should be contested uncontested by superior pace

5. generally speaking the defence defended well but could not create. the midfield couldn't get it and forwards didnt see it

6. the zonal defence outside 50 was incredibly counter productive as they found people to kick to the goal sq and we couldn't defend there anyway

overall a very poor performance and perhaps this side should be dismantled for 2011

[swan_song]

It's sad, but true, but now I'm just looking forward to playing ther Pies (???) at North Sydney Oval in Feb...roll on 2008 season, and see if we can halt the decline and actually make the eight!

[swan_song]

3. our inability to get the ball unless kirk or goodes get it is just embarassing. we desperately need a cresswell type player.

Now you're talking, lets bring him back, he honestly couldnt be slower than some of the guys out there tonight...

[Swans500]

Absolutely.

Jude is not worth trading as we would get nothing for him. The real problem is that he should be plyed on the ball and not as a defensive forward. He is capable of getting the ball in contests but he is a terrible kick. He is just unable to pass or kick at goal with any accuracy. i think there were 2 goals kicked directly from his kicks favouring the defender

Anyway the main issues are :

1. we have appalling skills. When we do get it schneider misses a free man crouch misses a free man and so on. two years ago we had the best skills in the league, we now have amongst the worst

2. we desperately miss the running defenders of kennelly and barry - you could tell in the first half that we would get the ball and stop and have nithing to kick to, nothing to run to and a general lack of faith.

3. our inability to get the ball unless kirk or goodes get it is just embarassing. we desperately need a cresswell type player.

4. the lack of speed on the forward line is a huge problem. two often the ball would have collingwood players get to the ball and make something that should be contested uncontested by superior pace

5. generally speaking the defence defended well but could not create. the midfield couldn't get it and forwards didnt see it

6. the zonal defence outside 50 was incredibly counter productive as they found people to kick to the goal sq and we couldn't defend there anyway

overall a very poor performance and perhaps this side should be dismantled for 2011

[mcs]

very important point though from Melbournehammer unless its goodes or Kirk in there we cant get the ball and we cant get it out effectively. A lot of players can jump on top but they cant get the ball out. I think a lot of that has to do with our skills which have gone backward by a large amount this year.

[Margie]

Add poor coaching to the list.

Thought Roos should have moved Brennan off Rusling after he (Rusling) took his first 3-4 marks.

[NMWBloods]

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Yep!!

[NMWBloods]

Thought Roos should have moved Brennan off Rusling after he (Rusling) took his first 3-4 marks.

Poor Brennan - he's too small to be a key position defender.

[ugg]

Poor Brennan - he's too small to be a key position defender.

Yes that is true but I don't think that was the deciding factor tonight.

[NMWBloods]

I thought he looked good in spots. Took some nice marks, collected the ball and ran it confidently a few times. He mainly seemed completely out of sorts when playing against the bigger players.

[ugg]

I thought he looked good in spots. Took some nice marks, collected the ball and ran it confidently a few times. He mainly seemed completely out of sorts when playing against the bigger players.

But he can't kick for crap. Worse than Jude Bolton and that's saying something. And with the kind of game plan we have, he just cannot be played in defence.

[NMWBloods]

Yeah I've seen his crap kicking before, but I can't recall so much tonight.

Speaking of J Bolton - stupid AFL site has him in the best!

[WASwansFanatic]

My god.....i havent read the other posts.... so please excuse me if this has already been said..........

1. Besides the 15 min period between end of 1st and initial stages of 2nd.......we were bloody disgraceful.

2. Ed Barlow.......please......he looked slow....overweight.....and second rate

3. Goodesy.....I love you

4. We are gone....next week we will win....the following we will lose and goodbye finals.

5. Please can someone take the bloody umpires out the back and smash the living crap out of them?

6. I am angry...................and sad.