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  • Bas
    Veterans List
    • Jan 2003
    • 4457

    #46
    Originally posted by NMWBloods
    I thought the main comment against indigenous players is that they're frequently not defensively minded.
    Sounds like a quote from Captain Cook or Arthur Phillip
    In memory of my little Staffy - Dicey, 17.06.2005 to 1.12.2011- I'll miss you mate.

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    • ugg
      Can you feel it?
      Site Admin
      • Jan 2003
      • 15970

      #47
      According to the HS, we're looking at Cameroon Wood. While Brisbane have a surplus of ruckmen (Jamie Charman, Matthew Leuenberger, Beau McDonald, Mitch Clark), he wouldn't come cheap and would cost us at least our 1st round pick.

      In the same article, they said that Jolly looking to return to Melbourne. Maybe a three-way trade could take place?

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      • Sanecow
        Suspended by the MRP
        • Mar 2003
        • 6917

        #48
        Originally posted by liz
        Eagles fans will tell you he is not of (Australian) indigenous extraction. I gather his racial background is part Indian or Sri Lankan.
        Either way, he has a touch of the tarbrush.

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        • doctor swan
          On the Rookie List
          • May 2007
          • 266

          #49
          recruiting wood makes sense, spida has another yr left, the donk will be gone seasons end and jolly can forget abt going anywhere.
          so jolly and wood in 08 and if jolly does go he is worth a 1st round pick plus, definitely in top 5 ruckman in comp ( cox, lade, ottens , white ) and there are not many good ruckman around
          so in short jolly stays

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          • dread and might
            Back, strapped and intact
            • Apr 2004
            • 949

            #50
            I would like to see some genuine pace in the midfield. D'OK sounds like he has great disposal and the old chestnut "good mark for his size" but doesn't sound overly quick.

            Some KPP size players would be good too. I still reckon Grundy might develop into someone useful.

            Vogels appears to be a "depth player" on our list. Either we give him a genuine crack or trade him to someone who lacks size.(bulldogs) Is Malcolm Lynch quick? He's from NSW....
            I wish my weed was EMO so it would cut itself

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            • dimelb
              pr. dim-melb; m not f
              • Jun 2003
              • 6889

              #51
              Originally posted by liz
              Eagles fans will tell you he is not of (Australian) indigenous extraction. I gather his racial background is part Indian or Sri Lankan.
              Well, you learn something every day! Still the most damaging middie.
              He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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              • originalswan
                On the Rookie List
                • Aug 2004
                • 550

                #52
                Jolly would be a big loss. BUT, on the other hand a "big loss" would ultimately bring about a potential "big gain" or win/win for both clubs.

                Perhaps Fevola and Thornton (even though he's dropped off a bit this year) for Jolly and pick 3?

                By the way for all those who care the mention of Maurice Rioli reminds me that he was nearly a Swan except that we couldn't fit him into the salary cap of the time.

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                • dimelb
                  pr. dim-melb; m not f
                  • Jun 2003
                  • 6889

                  #53
                  Originally posted by originalswan
                  Jolly would be a big loss. BUT, on the other hand a "big loss" would ultimately bring about a potential "big gain" or win/win for both clubs.

                  Perhaps Fevola and Thornton (even though he's dropped off a bit this year) for Jolly and pick 3?
                  Sounds good to me. We might look at the lists of those clubs low in the ruckman stocks (Carlton, Saints, Bulldogs) and see who we like.
                  He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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                  • liz
                    Veteran
                    Site Admin
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 16773

                    #54
                    Originally posted by originalswan
                    Perhaps Fevola and Thornton (even though he's dropped off a bit this year) for Jolly and pick 3?

                    I am confused. We don't have pick 3 to trade away. And the only way we could get it would be to trade away Goodes, O'Keefe or Malceski (the only players on our list who I think could conceivably be exchanged for such a pick, taking age into account).

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                    • originalswan
                      On the Rookie List
                      • Aug 2004
                      • 550

                      #55
                      Originally posted by liz
                      I am confused. We don't have pick 3 to trade away. And the only way we could get it would be to trade away Goodes, O'Keefe or Malceski (the only players on our list who I think could conceivably be exchanged for such a pick, taking age into account).
                      Our third Round pick!!!

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                      • liz
                        Veteran
                        Site Admin
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 16773

                        #56
                        Originally posted by originalswan
                        Our third Round pick!!!
                        We wouldn't get even Fevola alone for our 3rd round pick and Jolly- not along with Thornton thrown in as well. Carlton refused to trade him last year for a highish second round pick and I don't think that much would have changed for them this year.

                        Not that I think Thornton is someone that would make much of a difference to us anyway. He looks like a decent 3rd tall but not really strong enough to hold down a key back post (even though he's been forced to at Carlton).

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                        • originalswan
                          On the Rookie List
                          • Aug 2004
                          • 550

                          #57
                          Originally posted by liz
                          We wouldn't get even Fevola alone for our 3rd round pick and Jolly- not along with Thornton thrown in as well. Carlton refused to trade him last year for a highish second round pick and I don't think that much would have changed for them this year.

                          Not that I think Thornton is someone that would make much of a difference to us anyway. He looks like a decent 3rd tall but not really strong enough to hold down a key back post (even though he's been forced to at Carlton).
                          I think we would be looking for such a trade and possibly obtain it if as I have mentioned previously an auction type bidding war starts for his services.

                          Remember always start high and settle for an outcome that you would have originally been satisfied with, such as I believe Hawthorn did when dealing with the Swans for Everitt.

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                          • Layby
                            Suspended by the MRP
                            • May 2006
                            • 1803

                            #58
                            Originally posted by dimelb
                            Well, you learn something every day! Still the most damaging middie.

                            Sadly, you learn the wrong thing, his heritage is nothing of the sort.

                            However, it really is irelevant as Sanecow pointed out.

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                            • royboy42
                              Senior Player
                              • Apr 2006
                              • 2078

                              #59
                              Originally posted by Sanecow
                              Either way, he has a touch of the tarbrush.
                              Do the laws of discrimination not apply to this website? I am very glad that the legal liability is not mine!

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                              • dimelb
                                pr. dim-melb; m not f
                                • Jun 2003
                                • 6889

                                #60
                                Originally posted by Layby
                                Sadly, you learn the wrong thing, his heritage is nothing of the sort.
                                Oh? What's the good oil?
                                He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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