RSS: We don't need to rebuild yet: Roos

[Mike_B]

OK Fine, we can't necessarily get rid of a whole lot of players with no trade value in one go, but we can start bringing in younger players and giving them experience from 08, rather than having them go backwards playing ACTAFL and then having to come into a team with no experienced heads out there to help them through it.

Take a look at Collingwood, Port etc, they bring in the young players incrementally, instead of an all or nothing approach.

As others have said, stop coaching for yourself Roosy. You've admitted you won't be around for much longer, but at least try to leave the club in a strong position when you do call it quits instead of abandoning a rotting carcass.

[swan_song]

The thing is that there just isnt the talent in the magoos everybody on here seems to believe there is. If there were any really good up and coming players in the 2s don't you think that they would have been noticed playing in a tenth rate competition like the ACTAFL. There ARE some players with potential for sure, but not the world-beaters that we all hope for...
It's dificult to see where we go from here...doing relatively well for four or five years has robbed the club of drafting really good young players (its the old story of the AFL rewarding poor teams and penalising successful ones in the interests of evening the competiton), we have had to recruit from other clubs. I think we have to bottom out for a couple of years to get some top draft picks and rebuild...and that means, loss in attendances, memberships, merchandising, sponsor dollars, tv ratings, etc. AND i doubt its gonna happen.

[DST]

I agree with him.

There is absolutely no need to change the game plan. It has worked and continues to work for teams such as Collingwood who play a very similar style and Brisbane with a change of personnel look to be building again.

What will happen though is the personnel will change and that's not just form delisting 15 players.

We have enough youngsters on the list that have players a couple of years of reserves and have the fitness base and body shape to now be given the chance to play senior football.

From the side last night, add Kennelly, Buchanen, a repaired Hall and four quicker youngsters and the team changes remarkably while still playing the same brand of succesfull football.

DST

[hammo]

The fact we only had 1 player under 21 in the team last night compared to Colingwood's 8 speaks volumes. We are too slow and need an injection of pace fast.

Crouch's only asset was his pace and now that he's lost that you can't tell me that there aren't 3 or 4 in the reserves who could do a better job. Kieren Jack would be an obvious candidate I would have thought. Will his development be put back because Roos feels he owes Crouch another season.

Our midfield is a lumbering embarrassment. The number of holding the ball decisions last night had as much to do with our slow, ineffective game plan as the umpires.

More of the same will not take us to the finals in 2008.

[NMWBloods]

The game plan worked for Collingwood because as well as a high pressure game, they also go for the ball in clearances, they open spaces, they move it quickly, and they have a forward structure.

We need to put more younger players from the reserves into the seniors and see how they go. We may not be able to trade the old players, but we will get better value in the medium term from trying more younger players.

[ugg]

I don't think comparing us to Collingwood is such a great example. They happen to match up well against us, but you have to remember they've recently lost to Richmond and struggled against Carlton. They're a very small chance of winning the premiership

[NMWBloods]

I agree. The problem with our game plan is that our forward and midfield structures are non-existant. We go sideways and slowly work the ball forward - that allows opposition teams to get back. We need to move the ball quicker into the forward line. We have always needed to do that. We've managed to get away with it in the past because our midfield can slow the ball down and allow players to get back and strangle the opposition forward line. That no longer works - hence our game plan no longer works.

If we're talking about high pressure - of course we should continue that, but that's not a game plan.

[DeadlyAkkuret]

Roos did not believe Sydney?s game plan needed an overhaul. From 51 inside-50 entries, the Swans managed just 13 goals. They also lost the hard-ball-get count 43-37.

?No, I don?t think so,? Roos said when asked if his team needed to change its approach.

?I think our style has stood the test of time and Brisbane?s before us - we basically copied their style.


?We need to look at players from other clubs to stay up the top of the ladder.?

Oh dear Roosy, you are starting to sound like Rodney Eade. You stubborn SOB.

I refuse to read the article because i can't believe he'd say something like that. It's mind-boggling and plain stupid from Roos!

[Nico]

On SEN today I think Brereton said that our game plan is played in some form by most sides. I dont necessarily think we have to change the game plan but you need speed for it to work.

[swansrule100]

I agree. The problem with our game plan is that our forward and midfield structures are non-existant. We go sideways and slowly work the ball forward - that allows opposition teams to get back. We need to move the ball quicker into the forward line. We have always needed to do that. We've managed to get away with it in the past because our midfield can slow the ball down and allow players to get back and strangle the opposition forward line. That no longer works - hence our game plan no longer works.

If we're talking about high pressure - of course we should continue that, but that's not a game plan.

and lets either teach the current group or recruit some midfielders who can deliver a football. You could shove dunstall, lockett, ablett snr, coleman, wayne carey etc in our forward line at their peak and it would be hard work with the ball flying wide of them or over their head or to the advantage of the opposition.

I cannot remember many times last night the ball was put out in front of a forwards lead.

All good and well for people to bag barry hall who has been way down on form yes, but whats that rubbish comming into him?

Time to change things roosy we need some decent kicks in this side

[hammo]

In 2008 the players Roos is talking about are all 3 years older.

We already resemble Dad's Army compared to the Pies, Hawks, Eagles etc. Time to move on...

[dendol]

FFS this makes me @@@@ty!! Once the result was known last night, I actually wanted to see us get smashed so at least Roos could see why we need to get rid of some of the oldies that can't match it with the Collingwood youngsters.

To read what he said absolutely infuriates me! Our kids will get a run in the pre-season comp next year only to get sent to Canberra when the real season begins

It's not right to wish injury on any player, but boy, could we do with a few next year so the likes of Schmidt, Barlow and co will get a proper run!?

[barry]

Roos did not believe Sydney?s game plan needed an overhaul. From 51 inside-50 entries, the Swans managed just 13 goals. They also lost the hard-ball-get count 43-37.

?No, I don?t think so,? Roos said when asked if his team needed to change its approach.

?I think our style has stood the test of time and Brisbane?s before us - we basically copied their style.


?We need to look at players from other clubs to stay up the top of the ladder.?

Oh dear Roosy, you are starting to sound like Rodney Eade. You stubborn SOB.

I dont agree with anything you've quoted from Roosey. Collingwood are playing exactly the same way as we did in 2005 .... with slightly less stopages.

As I've said before, the only thing that should be addressed with a high priority is our consistant free kick counts.

[Robbo]

When Roosy says "We don't need to rebuild yet" it means we are all in for another year of Crouch and Mathews.

We won't make the 8 next year.

[hammo]

As I've said before, the only thing that should be addressed with a high priority is our consistant free kick counts.

That alone will not see us improve.

What about (in no particluar order):

- Pace
- Ball winners no stoppage creators
- Better delivery inside 50
- A forward structure that works
- A big defender who can handle the Roccas & Browns of the AFL