The dreaded 'Leadership Group'

[CureTheSane]

Roos makes it very clear, that he will give plenty of weight to their suggestions. ie; Passing most of the buck.
If this so called blood brotherhood exists, how can the players be expected to make objective disspassionate decisions? Answer...They can't !

Passing most of the buck. @ that uninformed analysis

Blood brotherhood? are you serious?
You can't discern between media aimed comments and common sense?

[CureTheSane]

1) A footy club is a unique set up, in that all the players do essentually the same job. To judge those supposedly under them, is to judge themselves. And that can't be done objectively.
2)Why would you want the leadership group reviewing junior players, when they rarely see them play.

I agree. The players should be sat down and told that however they feel is irrelevant. No-one wants to hear their gripes and complaints. In effect they should have NO INPUT WHATSOEVER into the the organization they work for.

That will work well.

And I note that if the players are in no position to comment on other players they play beside, then Ernie Koala will happily abide by the same rules and not be as obtrusive as the players and refrain from commenting on players and their abilities.
That will be left entirely up to, um, I assume you are implying that Paul Roos owns that role?

[gossipcom]

As long as they appoint a new leadeship group consisting of:

Kirk,
Goodes,
Kennelly,
Malceski,
Davis,
Buchanan

In the first place, then I'm all for it.

So you would put those players (excl. Kirk and Goodes) in front of C. Bolton?

[reigning premier]

So you would put those players (excl. Kirk and Goodes) in front of C. Bolton?

Ok. Yes. There you go. Now what?

[swantastic]

Not sure if Mathews and Jude are the best to be assessing this as its their positions that most feel should be opened up to new blood.

Spot on Hammo again,its a bloody joke.

GROW SOME BALLS ROOSY AND MAKE THE HARD DECISIONS YOURSELF and dont leave it up to their mates.

[AnnieH]

You seriously reckon Roosey reads this?

Roosey if you're out there ... c'mon post something. Anything.

[Layby]

Hello

[Wazza]

Spot on Hammo again,its a bloody joke.

GROW SOME BALLS ROOSY AND MAKE THE HARD DECISIONS YOURSELF and dont leave it up to their mates.

AGREE!!!

[AnnieH]

Hello

Layby ... we all know you just want to secretly BE Roosey.

Will the real Roosey please stand up?

[ernie koala]

Passing most of the buck. @ that uninformed analysis

Blood brotherhood? are you serious?
You can't discern between media aimed comments and common sense?

Read, very slowly, the first line of Roos article..he refers to the Bloods brotherhood.
My point is, having such a tight knit group that we are constantly told they are, makes assessing eachother (given they all hold the same position ie player) objectively and disspassionately is not possible. And in the article Roos suggests, IMO, that plenty of weight is given to their view. ie. "If the leadership group say no, they would like exactly the same team next season, ( a crazy short sighted thought) I would have to weigh that up". That's too much weight!

Thats why they have a football department. With a director of footy, senior coach, assistant coaches, recruitment people etc etc, to rate the players, according to what they are after. Then recruit accordingly.

[bennyfrou]

From: same article

Roos: "Our leadership group has been an invaluable part of the club in the past five years and, as every year, there will be a vote on our leadership group itself once we finalise the list."

So, once the current leadership group helps decide who should be on the entire list next year, the whole team takes a vote on who should be in the leadership group for 2008?

Sounds to me like this is the safety net to stop people simply voting for themselves or their mates (ie leadership group) as there is no guarantee they will be voted in again next year.

Kirk for sole Captain
Goodes for Vice Captain

Hall, Malceski, C.Bolton, Fosdike in leadership group.

[AnnieH]

snip Kirk for sole Captain
Goodes for Vice Captain

Hall, Malceski, C.Bolton, Fosdike in leadership group.

I would have thought that Fossie was already in the leadership group. I'm surprised if he's not.

[ernie koala]

From: same article

Roos: "Our leadership group has been an invaluable part of the club in the past five years and, as every year, there will be a vote on our leadership group itself once we finalise the list."

So, once the current leadership group helps decide who should be on the entire list next year, the whole team takes a vote on who should be in the leadership group for 2008?

Sounds to me like this is the safety net to stop people simply voting for themselves or their mates (ie leadership group) as there is no guarantee they will be voted in again next year.

So a ....McVeigh (for obvious reasons), can go to a.... Mathews (for obvious reasons) and say : "Hey Ben, vote to keep me on the list and I'll vote to keep you in the leadership group."

[bennyfrou]

I would have thought that Fossie was already in the leadership group. I'm surprised if he's not.

I didn't think that he was but I agree he is more than ready. He's always getting interviewed and ends up on the Swannies afl site. Tells it like it is too.

[bennyfrou]

So a ....McVeigh (for obvious reasons), can go to a.... Mathews (for obvious reasons) and say : "Hey Ben, vote to keep me on the list and I'll vote to keep you in the leadership group."

And I guess thats something we'll never know if they do or not.