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  • Moose Malloy
    On the Rookie List
    • Mar 2006
    • 6

    How does trading work?

    If a player is out of contract e.g. Judd, why does the old club have a right to ask for players in exchange? Doesn't end of contract mean the old club has no hold on that player, who is now a free agent? Apparently it doesn't but I don't understand the mechanism.
  • stellation
    scott names the planets
    • Sep 2003
    • 9718

    #2
    There is no free agency in AFL, next time you get a chance grab a player and ask them if they like that
    I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
    We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

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    • hammo
      Veterans List
      • Jul 2003
      • 5554

      #3
      Originally posted by Moose Malloy
      If a player is out of contract e.g. Judd, why does the old club have a right to ask for players in exchange? Doesn't end of contract mean the old club has no hold on that player, who is now a free agent? Apparently it doesn't but I don't understand the mechanism.
      The alternative is Judd nominates for the draft where he has no control over where he ends up and West Coast get no compensation.

      By trading, West Coast get something in return and Judd gets a destination he is happy with.
      "As everyone knows our style of football is defensive and unattractive, and as such I have completely forgotten how to mark or kick over the years" - Brett Kirk

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      • ScottH
        It's Goodes to cheer!!
        • Sep 2003
        • 23665

        #4
        For a player to leave a club for another, they have 2 choices:
        a) ask to be traded,
        b) get delisted.

        With a quality player, like Judd, the club will want compensation, for letting him go. So clubs will offer player(s) and/or draft pick(s).

        If the Eagles do not agree to a fair trade, by the Trade Date, Judd can go into the Pre Season Draft and try his luck, the highest draft pick will secure him first, and the Eagles get nothing in return.

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        • barry
          Veterans List
          • Jan 2003
          • 8499

          #5
          Originally posted by Moose Malloy
          If a player is out of contract e.g. Judd, why does the old club have a right to ask for players in exchange? Doesn't end of contract mean the old club has no hold on that player, who is now a free agent? Apparently it doesn't but I don't understand the mechanism.
          Because AFL contracts run until after trade period (december?), so Judd is still signed to WC, but by next season he'll be out of contract with WC - but cant be traded as trade week is over, so he either signs with WC, or nominates for the draft.

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          • swantastic
            Veterans List
            • Jan 2006
            • 7275

            #6
            Originally posted by ScottH
            For a player to leave a club for another, they have 2 choices:
            a) ask to be traded,
            b) get delisted.

            With a quality player, like Judd, the club will want compensation, for letting him go. So clubs will offer player(s) and/or draft pick(s).

            If the Eagles do not agree to a fair trade, by the Trade Date, Judd can go into the Pre Season Draft and try his luck, the highest draft pick will secure him first, and the Eagles get nothing in return.
            That would be so sweet if that happend.
            Now this is a thread that i would expect on the ego -centric, wank session that is redandwhiteonline.com...

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            • timthefish
              Regular in the Side
              • Sep 2003
              • 940

              #7
              Originally posted by ScottH
              the highest draft pick will secure him first
              the highest draft pick from the club that agrees to the asking price he is allowed to nominate that is
              then again, i think it would be worth trying 15-16 players on field so what would i know

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              • Bas
                Veterans List
                • Jan 2003
                • 4457

                #8
                Originally posted by ScottH
                For a player to leave a club for another, they have 2 choices:
                a) ask to be traded,
                b) get delisted.

                With a quality player, like Judd, the club will want compensation, for letting him go. So clubs will offer player(s) and/or draft pick(s).

                If the Eagles do not agree to a fair trade, by the Trade Date, Judd can go into the Pre Season Draft and try his luck, the highest draft pick will secure him first, and the Eagles get nothing in return.
                A good example of this was Nick Stevens from Port. Wanted to go to collingwood, the clubs could not agree on a trade and Stevens then was free to go into the draft and ended up at Carlton.

                Port wanted Didak if I remember but collingwood would not trade him for Stevens.

                Carlton should try to get Judd in the pre-season draft. However I think wet toast will take anything if the alternative is nothing.
                In memory of my little Staffy - Dicey, 17.06.2005 to 1.12.2011- I'll miss you mate.

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                • reigning premier
                  Suspended by the MRP
                  • Sep 2006
                  • 4335

                  #9
                  You take the number of spanners in a sidchrome tool set.

                  Divide it by the last game's starting 22 average shoe size.

                  Then multiple by the average score of the teams leading goal kicker.

                  Based on the number you get, the coaches are then ranked from top to bottom, one through sixteen.

                  Using the McIntyre system (Top plays bottom), the coaches play off in a best of three rock, paper and scissors.

                  The losers are relegated to a warm beer and cold pie relay race, the last man standing without vomiting gets first pick of the bottom eight.

                  The winners are sent on a three day survival trip where they are forced to listen to Eddie Maguire calling a Collingwood game on a constant loop. Last coach standing with full mental function takes the prized first draft pick.

                  Unless of course the draftee is a second cousin or closer realtion to a club member who held the position of boot studder or higher. In that instance, their mum gets to choose.

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                  • AnnieH
                    RWOs Black Sheep
                    • Aug 2006
                    • 11332

                    #10
                    Originally posted by reigning premier
                    You take the number of spanners in a sidchrome tool set.

                    Divide it by the last game's starting 22 average shoe size.

                    ... snip
                    Classic RP. I'm sure that's how it's really done.
                    Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
                    Blessed are the cracked for they are the ones who let in the light.

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                    • Triple B
                      Formerly 'BBB'
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 6999

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Bas
                      Carlton should try to get Judd in the pre-season draft.
                      They don't have first pick.
                      Driver of the Dan Hannebery bandwagon....all aboard. 4th April 09

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                      • Claret
                        Support Staff
                        • Sep 2005
                        • 1104

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Bas
                        Carlton should try to get Judd in the pre-season draft.
                        As BBB said, they don't have to first pick in the pre-season draft, Richmond do.

                        The Blues have first (and third) pick in the National Draft.
                        And the man who started it all, the Schneiderman . . . . .

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                        • Nico
                          Veterans List
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 11328

                          #13
                          Originally posted by barry
                          Because AFL contracts run until after trade period (december?), so Judd is still signed to WC, but by next season he'll be out of contract with WC - but cant be traded as trade week is over, so he either signs with WC, or nominates for the draft.
                          I think you will find that contracts expire in October so in Judd's case he can choose to go into the pre season draft because by then he in uncontracted and WCE have no hold on him. However he has said he has no reason to dud WCE and will try to have the deal work out with the best possible scenario for the WCE. So his fate will be settled in trade week which is before the National Draft and a deal will be done for players and or draft picks. QED.
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                          • Cher
                            Born into the team
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 1474

                            #14
                            Originally posted by reigning premier
                            You take the number of spanners in a sidchrome tool set.



                            Unless of course the draftee is a second cousin or closer realtion to a club member who held the position of boot studder or higher. In that instance, their mum gets to choose.
                            It all finally makes sense!
                            CHER - Who has two types of blood cells "RED ones and WHITE ones"

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