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  • jono2707
    Goes up to 11
    • Oct 2007
    • 3326

    #16
    Originally posted by Bas
    Are we expecting too much from Jesse?

    He was drafted at pick 79 in 2006. Other Swan draftees in the 70's were Ricky Mott at 74 in 2001 and Simon Feast was 71 in 1998.

    I like what I've seen so far and hope he becomes a permanent fixture in the side but I'm looking at history and it's saying no future.

    We've had a few big lumps of lads in the past few years that have not gone on with it.

    Why will Jesse be any different?
    Bas you're missing the point! Every Swan who has not yet played a senior game is to be treated as the next messiah on redandwhiteonline!

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    • CJK
      Human
      • Apr 2006
      • 2170

      #17
      Originally posted by jono2707
      Bas you're missing the point! Every Swan who has not yet played a senior game is to be treated as the next messiah on redandwhiteonline!
      QFT
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      • stellation
        scott names the planets
        • Sep 2003
        • 9718

        #18
        I don't think hoping he gets a run in the seniors is expecting too much of him.
        I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
        We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

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        • BSA5
          Senior Player
          • Feb 2008
          • 2522

          #19
          White impressed me a lot on Sunday. He looked just about ready for the big leagues. I reckon putting him in the backline would be madness. With Hall and O'Loughlin getting on, we're going to need to start developing a new key forward. White looks like the man for the job. He's quick on his feet, takes a good contested mark, and is nice and bulky. He's too small to be a genuine ruckman, and we don't need any more talls in the backline (Bolton, Richards and LRT have that covered, Faulks looks like he might break into the side soon, once he's put on a few more kilos, and Grundy, well, he's OK as backup). Play him in the forward pocket, with Micky at FF and Bazza at CHF. I hope he gets a run early in the season.
          Officially on the Reid and Sumner bandwagon!

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          • sprite
            Regular in the Side
            • Jan 2003
            • 813

            #20
            At the moment we need a CHB - he can move to the fwd line later if required.

            Playing in defence, you can pick up alot about how to be a forward.
            sprite

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            • Jewels
              On the Rookie List
              • Oct 2006
              • 3258

              #21
              Originally posted by Bas
              Are we expecting too much from Jesse?

              He was drafted at pick 79 in 2006. Other Swan draftees in the 70's were Ricky Mott at 74 in 2001 and Simon Feast was 71 in 1998.

              I like what I've seen so far and hope he becomes a permanent fixture in the side but I'm looking at history and it's saying no future.

              We've had a few big lumps of lads in the past few years that have not gone on with it.

              Why will Jesse be any different?
              Jimmy Hird was picked at 79 and he played ok......

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              • BSA5
                Senior Player
                • Feb 2008
                • 2522

                #22
                Originally posted by sprite
                At the moment we need a CHB - he can move to the fwd line later if required.

                Playing in defence, you can pick up alot about how to be a forward.

                We don't need a CHB! We've got Bolton and LRT to be our defensive spine. Richards and Barry can both play that sort of role as well, and we have Grundy around. I don't think Grundy is in our best 22, but he isn't bad backup.

                We already have a full backline:

                B: Richards Bolton Barry
                HB: Kennelly LRT Mattner

                With maybe a small midfielder who can play in defence on the bench, that's a full backline. Plenty of talls, in any case, and that's what we're talking about. There's no room for White there. God, that really hurt not being able to put Malceski in, although he probably would have played in the middle this year anyway. Still, ouch!

                Anyway, let's take a look at our forward line:

                HF O'Keefe Hall (McVeigh)
                F Davis O'Loughlin (White)

                Those are our only really set players in the forward line, if you ask me. That leaves a half-forward and a forward pocket. White could probably play either. On the one hand, he'd be closer to goal in the forward pocket, but on the other, he'd get more of the ball across half-forward, and he looks like he's mobile and a decent user of the ball, so that could be good, and give him confidence. Either way, I think he'd do well. The other position could be filled by a Bolton or a McVeigh or something. I'd prefer McVeigh. I really like the look of him when he goes forward. So I've put those two in brackets. I reckon that looks like our best forward line.
                Officially on the Reid and Sumner bandwagon!

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                • Bas
                  Veterans List
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 4457

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Jewels
                  Jimmy Hird was picked at 79 and he played ok......
                  I'm sure you'll find there's more to that story than meets the number. His grandfather was a bummers legend after all.

                  I'm saying lets review Jesse after 6 senior games because most people have only seen him play twice and that was in the first pre-season game.

                  Ryan O'Connor was very impressive in his first few games too.
                  In memory of my little Staffy - Dicey, 17.06.2005 to 1.12.2011- I'll miss you mate.

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                  • Jewels
                    On the Rookie List
                    • Oct 2006
                    • 3258

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Bas
                    I'm sure you'll find there's more to that story than meets the number. His grandfather was a bummers legend after all.

                    I'm saying lets review Jesse after 6 senior games because most people have only seen him play twice and that was in the first pre-season game.

                    Ryan O'Connor was very impressive in his first few games too.
                    I know what you mean, my point was more that the draft is a lottery, look how late Goodes went. Your quite correct, give him 6 games and if he plays consistently like he did on Sunday, then I reckon we can start singing.

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                    • Jeffers1984
                      Veterans List
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 4564

                      #25
                      The thing i like about J Dubb is that (as stell pointed out in another thread) he is genuinely enthusiastic about being out on the field. You can see he is really enjoying his football out there and it is having an effect on the way he plays. So add the two together (which Jesse has both of) and then we have a player with alot of excitement and potential.
                      Official Driver Of The "Who Gives A @@@@ As The Player Will Get Delisted Anyway" Bandwagon.

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                      • Bas
                        Veterans List
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 4457

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Jewels
                        I know what you mean, my point was more that the draft is a lottery, look how late Goodes went. Your quite correct, give him 6 games and if he plays consistently like he did on Sunday, then I reckon we can start singing.
                        We'll be singing loud too.

                        The GREAT WHITE HOPE!!!!!!!!!

                        We can always change the words of Great Southern Land to Great Jesse White. If Iva complains, I'll hit him with my hand bag!
                        In memory of my little Staffy - Dicey, 17.06.2005 to 1.12.2011- I'll miss you mate.

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                        • jude_boltons_babe
                          On the Rookie List
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 761

                          #27
                          hes going to be great for the swans
                          jude bolton and adam biggest fan ever

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                          • stellation
                            scott names the planets
                            • Sep 2003
                            • 9718

                            #28
                            I thought he rucked really well giving away a bit of height and reach against Minson, I'm sure he won 5 or 6 contests straight and ended up getting a free kick from Minson then goaling. He did quite well.
                            I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
                            We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

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                            • Jewels
                              On the Rookie List
                              • Oct 2006
                              • 3258

                              #29
                              As a ruckman, he will give away a bit of height to most others, but did you notice the height he gets from the leap in. I guess it's his basketball background, I was stunned seeing how high he leapt tonight.

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                              • FootyontheBrain
                                On the Rookie List
                                • Apr 2005
                                • 146

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Jewels
                                As a ruckman, he will give away a bit of height to most others, but did you notice the height he gets from the leap in. I guess it's his basketball background, I was stunned seeing how high he leapt tonight.
                                I think for a guy with a big leap it actually benefits you against taller opponents. If you're able to make body contact with your opponent because you're jumping before they are jumping and thereby minimizing the height your opponent can jump. I think this is what made Goodesy so devastating in the ruck. The fact he is also so athletic at his height makes him equally dangerous. As we saw in the Hawthorne game he can run off his man providing a very difficult positional matchup when the ball is in general play.

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