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  • Old Royboy
    Support Staff
    • Mar 2004
    • 879

    Sydney is Victimised by Umpires

    We have had many debates on this forum on the continual lop sided free kick counts in Swans matches. Whilst the Swans playing style has contributed, many of us felt that the Swans have been treated harshly in the past.

    Now we have evidence that this was and is the case!!

    Please explain!!!!!

    The Sydney couldn't care less whisper - realfooty.com.au

    "Exasperated by what he believed was an extremely harsh holding-the-ball call, the Swans man voiced his disapproval. In response, he claims, the man in the umpires area responded, somewhat sympathetically: "We've been told to umpire your games differently."
    Pay peanuts get monkeys
  • bennyfrou
    On the Rookie List
    • Jul 2006
    • 327

    #2
    Originally posted by Old Royboy
    We have had many debates on this forum on the continual lop sided free kick counts in Swans matches. Whilst the Swans playing style has contributed, many of us felt that the Swans have been treated harshly in the past.

    Now we have evidence that this was and is the case!!

    Please explain!!!!!

    The Sydney couldn't care less whisper - realfooty.com.au

    "Exasperated by what he believed was an extremely harsh holding-the-ball call, the Swans man voiced his disapproval. In response, he claims, the man in the umpires area responded, somewhat sympathetically: "We've been told to umpire your games differently."
    In light of this article, it is a joke that we now have a case to answer to in regards to match fixing. Can't wait to see how Roos handles himself.

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    • connolly
      Registered User
      • Aug 2005
      • 2461

      #3
      We have been subjected to and adversely affected by "policy" umpiring for some time. This is different from mere bias and is the deliberate strategy of the AFL arse clowns to determine the style of the game. Reminicisent of the rule changes in billiards to beat the great Walter Lindrom.
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      • stellation
        scott names the planets
        • Sep 2003
        • 9723

        #4
        Those darn umpires! If it wasn't for them we would have been a successful club over the last few years, instead of this pathetic run of finals appearances, the 2 consecutive Grand Finals and the premiership.
        I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
        We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

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        • BSA5
          Senior Player
          • Feb 2008
          • 2522

          #5
          I call bull@@@@. No umpire is going to admit that sort of thing. I think it's the same as Roosy. The guy was joking, but the Swans employee didn't pick up on it.
          Officially on the Reid and Sumner bandwagon!

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          • liz
            Veteran
            Site Admin
            • Jan 2003
            • 16786

            #6
            Originally posted by BSA5
            I call bull@@@@. No umpire is going to admit that sort of thing. I think it's the same as Roosy. The guy was joking, but the Swans employee didn't pick up on it.

            That is the whole point of the article though - that the Swans did realise it was almost certainly an off-the-cuff, meant-to-be humorous comment and thus acted accordingly.

            In contrast to the current comings and goings...

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            • satchmopugdog
              Bandicoots ears
              • Apr 2004
              • 3691

              #7
              It's a shame we can't carry round an emoticom to let people know it is tongue in cheek.


              I liked that line at the end of the article about burning martyr instead of sacrificial lamb.
              "The Dog days are over, The Dog days are gone" Florence and the Machine

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              • TheGrimReaper
                Suspended by the MRP
                • Sep 2007
                • 2203

                #8
                It proves my theory that the AFL are nothing more than hypocrites.

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                • stellation
                  scott names the planets
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 9723

                  #9
                  Will the AFL reopen the case raised by Greg Williams? I believe there were revelations that an umpire gave an instruction, dismissed as an off the cuff remark, not to give him 3 votes following a game he was BOG in. He didn't receive the 3 votes and went on to miss out on the Brownlow by 1.
                  I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
                  We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

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                  • TheGrimReaper
                    Suspended by the MRP
                    • Sep 2007
                    • 2203

                    #10
                    Originally posted by stellation
                    Will the AFL reopen the case raised by Greg Williams? I believe there were revelations that an umpire gave an instruction, dismissed as an off the cuff remark, not to give him 3 votes following a game he was BOG in. He didn't receive the 3 votes and went on to miss out on the Brownlow by 1.
                    He does have a case, but that would make the AFL look stupid and wrong!! Nothing will probably happen.

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                    • sharp9
                      Senior Player
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 2508

                      #11
                      Didn't give an instruction, they just did the votes and didn't give him any. the young umpire was very surprised, though seeing as Williams had 40 touches.

                      Personally iIthought that that was an appropriate call, it's a best and fairest after all. If you abuse the umpire than that should demote you way down the rankings in the votes, i would have thought. just 'cos they aren't consistent about it doesn't mean they were wrong in this instance.
                      "I'll acknowledge there are more talented teams in the competition but I won't acknowledge that there is a better team in the competition" Paul Roos March 2005

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                      • TheGrimReaper
                        Suspended by the MRP
                        • Sep 2007
                        • 2203

                        #12
                        Originally posted by sharp9
                        Didn't give an instruction, they just did the votes and didn't give him any. the young umpire was very surprised, though seeing as Williams had 40 touches.

                        Personally iIthought that that was an appropriate call, it's a best and fairest after all. If you abuse the umpire than that should demote you way down the rankings in the votes, i would have thought. just 'cos they aren't consistent about it doesn't mean they were wrong in this instance.
                        It goes to show that maybe the Umpires shouldn't be giving the Brownlow Medal votes at all? Maybe a panel would be a better idea, consist of former players, media experts and former umpires.

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                        • connolly
                          Registered User
                          • Aug 2005
                          • 2461

                          #13
                          Originally posted by TheGrimReaper
                          It goes to show that maybe the Umpires shouldn't be giving the Brownlow Medal votes at all? Maybe a panel would be a better idea, consist of former players, media experts and former umpires.
                          You were going ok till the "media experts" idea
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                          • stellation
                            scott names the planets
                            • Sep 2003
                            • 9723

                            #14
                            Originally posted by sharp9
                            Didn't give an instruction, they just did the votes and didn't give him any. the young umpire was very surprised, though seeing as Williams had 40 touches.

                            Personally iIthought that that was an appropriate call, it's a best and fairest after all. If you abuse the umpire than that should demote you way down the rankings in the votes, i would have thought. just 'cos they aren't consistent about it doesn't mean they were wrong in this instance.
                            My understanding was that the young umpire said he was told not to vote for Williams.

                            Edit: okay my understanding wasn't completely accurate;
                            Bird claimed that when he suggested Williams be given votes, Russo asked him if the mid-fielder had made their job any easier.

                            Bird said no and claimed Williams had given them a hard time during the game.
                            link

                            Whilst I agree that it is best and fairest, surely the "best" component has to come into it at some point? Williams had 44 disposals and didn't get a single vote.
                            Last edited by stellation; 5 March 2008, 10:26 AM.
                            I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
                            We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

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                            • connolly
                              Registered User
                              • Aug 2005
                              • 2461

                              #15
                              Originally posted by sharp9
                              Didn't give an instruction, they just did the votes and didn't give him any. the young umpire was very surprised, though seeing as Williams had 40 touches.

                              Personally iIthought that that was an appropriate call, it's a best and fairest after all. If you abuse the umpire than that should demote you way down the rankings in the votes, i would have thought. just 'cos they aren't consistent about it doesn't mean they were wrong in this instance.
                              Should it be called the Brownose Medal?
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