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  • TheGrimReaper
    Suspended by the MRP
    • Sep 2007
    • 2203

    #16
    Originally posted by swantastic
    C'mon GS 14 your kidding your self if you think it hasnt happend to a white person.

    It happend to me for years playing soccer,and it hasnt scarred me at all.

    A good way to get them back is hit them hard but fair.
    You're white? What are the odds on that!

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    • goswannie14
      Leadership Group
      • Sep 2005
      • 11166

      #17
      Originally posted by swantastic
      C'mon GS 14 your kidding your self if you think it hasnt happend to a white person.
      I thought we were talking about this in the context of the AFL.
      It happend to me for years playing soccer,and it hasnt scarred me at all.
      see above comment
      A good way to get them back is hit them hard but fair.
      Are you saying that streaker last night called Symonds a monkey?
      Does God believe in Atheists?

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      • AnnieH
        RWOs Black Sheep
        • Aug 2006
        • 11332

        #18
        Originally posted by swantastic
        C'mon GS 14 your kidding your self if you think it hasnt happend to a white person.

        It happend to me for years playing soccer,and it hasnt scarred me at all.

        A good way to get them back is hit them hard but fair.
        What did they call you ... whitety?
        Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
        Blessed are the cracked for they are the ones who let in the light.

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        • swantastic
          Veterans List
          • Jan 2006
          • 7275

          #19
          Originally posted by goswannie14
          I thought we were talking about this in the context of the AFL. see above commentAre you saying that streaker last night called Symonds a monkey?
          It doenst matter what sport gs14 it still happens.

          Very clever GS14.
          Now this is a thread that i would expect on the ego -centric, wank session that is redandwhiteonline.com...

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          • swantastic
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            • Jan 2006
            • 7275

            #20
            Originally posted by Annie Haddad
            What did they call you ... whitety?
            Yep and other stuff too.
            Now this is a thread that i would expect on the ego -centric, wank session that is redandwhiteonline.com...

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            • TheGrimReaper
              Suspended by the MRP
              • Sep 2007
              • 2203

              #21
              Originally posted by swantastic
              Yep and other stuff too.
              There, there. Grim is here to comfort you mate.

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              • BSA5
                Senior Player
                • Feb 2008
                • 2522

                #22
                Originally posted by swantastic
                C'mon GS 14 your kidding your self if you think it hasnt happend to a white person.

                It happend to me for years playing soccer,and it hasnt scarred me at all.

                A good way to get them back is hit them hard but fair.
                Swantastic, nobody is saying that it hasn't happened to white people. However, a white person calling a black person a "monkey", given the context in which it occurred, is significantly worse than a black person calling a white person "whitey". Why? Because racially abusing an aboriginal carries the weight of history and power. There is a history of racism, and associated with that racism are years of mistreatment, discrimination and wrongdoings. Also, white people are the majority, and have the most money and power. These factors give white-to-black racism more power, and as such, it does more damage. All things being equal, one would be just as bad as the other, but all things aren't equal, which is why more emphasis is placed on getting rid of racism against Aboriginals. I'm not saying that racism against white people isn't bad, just that due to the historical and political context we are in, racism against black people has more weight.
                Officially on the Reid and Sumner bandwagon!

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                • connolly
                  Registered User
                  • Aug 2005
                  • 2461

                  #23
                  Originally posted by BSA5
                  Swantastic, nobody is saying that it hasn't happened to white people. However, a white person calling a black person a "monkey", given the context in which it occurred, is significantly worse than a black person calling a white person "whitey". Why? Because racially abusing an aboriginal carries the weight of history and power. There is a history of racism, and associated with that racism are years of mistreatment, discrimination and wrongdoings. Also, white people are the majority, and have the most money and power. These factors give white-to-black racism more power, and as such, it does more damage. All things being equal, one would be just as bad as the other, but all things aren't equal, which is why more emphasis is placed on getting rid of racism against Aboriginals. I'm not saying that racism against white people isn't bad, just that due to the historical and political context we are in, racism against black people has more weight.
                  Well said.
                  Bevo bandwagon driver

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                  • swantastic
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                    • Jan 2006
                    • 7275

                    #24
                    Originally posted by BSA5
                    Swantastic, nobody is saying that it hasn't happened to white people. However, a white person calling a black person a "monkey", given the context in which it occurred, is significantly worse than a black person calling a white person "whitey". Why? Because racially abusing an aboriginal carries the weight of history and power. There is a history of racism, and associated with that racism are years of mistreatment, discrimination and wrongdoings. Also, white people are the majority, and have the most money and power. These factors give white-to-black racism more power, and as such, it does more damage. All things being equal, one would be just as bad as the other, but all things aren't equal, which is why more emphasis is placed on getting rid of racism against Aboriginals. I'm not saying that racism against white people isn't bad, just that due to the historical and political context we are in, racism against black people has more weight.
                    It shouldnt matter either way,but thats just my opinion.
                    Now this is a thread that i would expect on the ego -centric, wank session that is redandwhiteonline.com...

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                    • swantastic
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                      • Jan 2006
                      • 7275

                      #25
                      Originally posted by TheGrimReaper
                      There, there. Grim is here to comfort you mate.
                      Thanks i needed that.
                      Now this is a thread that i would expect on the ego -centric, wank session that is redandwhiteonline.com...

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                      • TheGrimReaper
                        Suspended by the MRP
                        • Sep 2007
                        • 2203

                        #26
                        Originally posted by swantastic
                        Thanks i needed that.
                        Just watch the video that Grimmy posted, and it will make you feel all better.

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                        • bedford
                          forward coach
                          • Nov 2007
                          • 362

                          #27
                          does the player play for port adeliade?

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                          • BSA5
                            Senior Player
                            • Feb 2008
                            • 2522

                            #28
                            Originally posted by swantastic
                            It shouldnt matter either way,but thats just my opinion.
                            All things being equal, it doesn't matter. But all things aren't equal. Racist comments don't just carry their own meaning. They carry connotations and implications, which are defined by the context. In Australia, the context means that on top of the racist comment by itself, anti-Aboriginal racism carries a @@@@load of extra weight, which anti-White racism simply doesn't have. Call me a Postmodernist, but you can't look at racist comments (or anything, for that matter) in isolation from their context.
                            Officially on the Reid and Sumner bandwagon!

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                            • floppinab
                              Senior Player
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 1681

                              #29
                              Originally posted by swantastic
                              C'mon GS 14 your kidding your self if you think it hasnt happend to a white person.

                              It happend to me for years playing soccer,and it hasnt scarred me at all.

                              A good way to get them back is hit them hard but fair.
                              Your one of the lucky ones st if it hasn't effected you. I've seen it happen on the field far too much in junior and senior football in Sydney and I know how much of an impact it can have on young players, black or of any race. In the long term, sure maybe they learn to live with it, but on game day it has a huge impact and they shouldn't have to live with it. It needs to be stamped out from the top down and among the million odd complaints I have about the powers that be at the top in our game, they way they have lead the pack in handling racism on the field has been very good.

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                              • floppinab
                                Senior Player
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 1681

                                #30
                                Goodes Article - A matter of choice

                                You MUST read this.


                                Official Website of the Australian Football League > News Article > The indigenous game: A matter of choice


                                There's nothing more I can add...........................

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