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  • dread and might
    Back, strapped and intact
    • Apr 2004
    • 949

    Draft system overhaul

    Ok. I've been mulling this one over for a while now. I am happy to have the fatal flaw in it exposed, I can't see it though....

    Obviously no system is perfect, but this should reduce the attractiveness of tanking, which, despite all the protestations to the contrary, is obviously happening at present.

    Priority pick: Gone

    Divide the teams into 4 groups of four based on finishing position. So top 4,
    5-8, 9-12, 13-16

    The bottom four still get the top 4 picks in the draft, but a lottery system determines the order within that group.

    Repeat for all the groups, throughout all the rounds of the draft.

    This way the cyclical access to the top talent is maintained without making it attractive to lose games, as you wouldn't know exactly which pick you were going to end up with anyway.

    Thoughts?
    I wish my weed was EMO so it would cut itself
  • AnnieH
    RWOs Black Sheep
    • Aug 2006
    • 11332

    #2
    It's a start.

    Personally, if you're a crap team you don't deserve the best pick.

    He who finishes first, deserves the best pick.

    Takes tanking right out of the equation.
    Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
    Blessed are the cracked for they are the ones who let in the light.

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    • CureTheSane
      Carpe Noctem
      • Jan 2003
      • 5032

      #3
      Originally posted by dread and might
      Ok. I've been mulling this one over for a while now. I am happy to have the fatal flaw in it exposed, I can't see it though....

      Obviously no system is perfect, but this should reduce the attractiveness of tanking, which, despite all the protestations to the contrary, is obviously happening at present.

      Priority pick: Gone

      Divide the teams into 4 groups of four based on finishing position. So top 4,
      5-8, 9-12, 13-16

      The bottom four still get the top 4 picks in the draft, but a lottery system determines the order within that group.

      Repeat for all the groups, throughout all the rounds of the draft.

      This way the cyclical access to the top talent is maintained without making it attractive to lose games, as you wouldn't know exactly which pick you were going to end up with anyway.

      Thoughts?
      Doesn't actually sound too bad.
      The difference between insanity and genius is measured only in success.

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      • goswannie14
        Leadership Group
        • Sep 2005
        • 11166

        #4
        Originally posted by dread and might
        Ok. I've been mulling this one over for a while now. I am happy to have the fatal flaw in it exposed, I can't see it though....

        Obviously no system is perfect, but this should reduce the attractiveness of tanking, which, despite all the protestations to the contrary, is obviously happening at present.

        Priority pick: Gone

        Divide the teams into 4 groups of four based on finishing position. So top 4,
        5-8, 9-12, 13-16

        The bottom four still get the top 4 picks in the draft, but a lottery system determines the order within that group.

        Repeat for all the groups, throughout all the rounds of the draft.

        This way the cyclical access to the top talent is maintained without making it attractive to lose games, as you wouldn't know exactly which pick you were going to end up with anyway.

        Thoughts?
        I was thinking along similar lines, but with 2 groups of 8 teams (ie those in the finals and those that miss out on the finals) instead of your 4 groups of 4.
        Does God believe in Atheists?

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        • smasher
          On the Rookie List
          • Jan 2005
          • 627

          #5
          I'm happier with that system,particularily the axing of the prioity pick.

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          • swantastic
            Veterans List
            • Jan 2006
            • 7275

            #6
            Originally posted by Annie Haddad
            It's a start.

            Personally, if you're a crap team you don't deserve the best pick.

            He who finishes first, deserves the best pick.

            Takes tanking right out of the equation.
            The AFL wouldnt do that Annie,because they want an even competition.
            Now this is a thread that i would expect on the ego -centric, wank session that is redandwhiteonline.com...

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            • dread and might
              Back, strapped and intact
              • Apr 2004
              • 949

              #7
              Originally posted by goswannie14
              I was thinking along similar lines, but with 2 groups of 8 teams (ie those in the finals and those that miss out on the finals) instead of your 4 groups of 4.
              Too high a possibility of a team having a good season, losing a few games on the trot at the wrong end of the season, finishing 9th and getting the #1 pick....
              I wish my weed was EMO so it would cut itself

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              • AnnieH
                RWOs Black Sheep
                • Aug 2006
                • 11332

                #8
                Originally posted by swantastic
                The AFL wouldnt do that Annie,because they want an even competition.

                It promotes an even competition.
                It means that every team has to try really hard.
                You get rewarded for playing well - not for tanking.
                Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
                Blessed are the cracked for they are the ones who let in the light.

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                • ShockOfHair
                  One Man Out
                  • Dec 2007
                  • 3668

                  #9
                  I was thinking along similar lines, but with 2 groups of 8 teams (ie those in the finals and those that miss out on the finals) instead of your 4 groups of 4.


                  I'm with that.

                  Right now teams have every incentive to tank.

                  There would be no incentive, except to drop out of the eight.

                  And so the draft becomes a crapshoot.

                  But if you're recruiting 16 & 17 yo kids, rather than 18 & 19yos as Roos and others have suggested, you don't know what you're getting anyway.
                  The man who laughs has not yet heard the terrible news

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                  • Mike_B
                    Peyow Peyow
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 6267

                    #10
                    Originally posted by goswannie14
                    I was thinking along similar lines, but with 2 groups of 8 teams (ie those in the finals and those that miss out on the finals) instead of your 4 groups of 4.
                    I'd just go with non-finalists going into a lottery, but the team that finishes 16th gets 8 entries, 15th gets 7 etc. For the top 8 just go on finishing position. This would be something along the lines of what they do in the NBA (albeit for the top 3 picks then go in reverse finishing order for the remainder). So the poorest team has the best chance of getting the top pick, but not guaranteed.

                    I'm on the Chandwagon!!!

                    If you cannot compete for the premiership, it's better to be young and exciting than middle-aged and dowdy.

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                    • CureTheSane
                      Carpe Noctem
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 5032

                      #11
                      Originally posted by dread and might
                      Too high a possibility of a team having a good season, losing a few games on the trot at the wrong end of the season, finishing 9th and getting the #1 pick....
                      That would be a big risk.

                      You could finish 9th and get the #4 pick.
                      I don't think many teams would risk that.
                      The difference between insanity and genius is measured only in success.

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                      • dread and might
                        Back, strapped and intact
                        • Apr 2004
                        • 949

                        #12
                        Not suggesting they would actually lose games on purpose to drop out of the 8. More saying if that happened and you ended up with the #1 pick it doesn't do much equalising, hence my suggestion to break into groups of 4 rather than 8.

                        So the comment was a reply to the post about halving the teams rather than 4 groups of 4...
                        I wish my weed was EMO so it would cut itself

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                        • CureTheSane
                          Carpe Noctem
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 5032

                          #13
                          OK, got it
                          The difference between insanity and genius is measured only in success.

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