V PA @ SCG Sunday. Out: Davis N In: Barlow E

[DeadlyAkkuret]

But I didn't really see any of those things in huge evidence today. I thought he played okay, but didn't do anything to suggest he was way better than Davis.

Anyone who thinks that the dropping of Davis is a key factor in our big win today ascribe far too much to Davis' influence and is mixing cause and effect with coincidence.

Oh trust me, I don't think Davis being dropped effected the result in any way, infact I didn't want him to be dropped at all. I was merely offering an opinion on what Barlow could add to the team, he's an exciting prospect!

[thedoc]

Maybe you should decide for yourself why you are here, others can decide for themselves and don't need your input into that decision.

Thanks for the advice. I am here to give my point of view and comment on other points of view, is that OK, or is there a anti-Roos rule I missed, champ?

[swantastic]

Really? In what ways?

In every way,he kicked a goal,adds a bit of height,doesnt give in,chases people and has a bigger motor,just to name a few.

[NMWBloods]

Thanks for the advice. I am here to give my point of view and comment on other points of view, is that OK, or is there a anti-Roos rule I missed, champ?

I don't see why you need to tell others they don't understand football or they need to think about why they are here or that they need a good hard look at themselves.

More than happy to see opinions and disagreements, but perhaps you could do it without the generalising moral high ground, and do it against specific points?

[BSA5]

More than happy to see opinions and disagreements, but perhaps you could do it without the generalising moral high ground, and do it against specific points?

I second that. I still reckon dropping Davis was a mistake. I reckon had Davis been in he probably would have played as well as Bevan, if not better, though I have to admit that Bevan played very well. Probably the best I've seen Bevan play in a long time.

[thedoc]

I don't see why you need to tell others they don't understand football or they need to think about why they are here or that they need a good hard look at themselves.

More than happy to see opinions and disagreements, but perhaps you could do it without the generalising moral high ground, and do it against specific points?

Fair enough.

There are specific quotes that mention disgust, assinine, lunacy, end of membership, etc, because a (very good) player was dropped by a brilliant coach. I suggest that those making those points might not really grasp the game as well as Roosy. I stand by that view, what is yours sir?

[NMWBloods]

I don't think Roos is quite as brilliant as some think (that's not to say he's not a very good coach - it's a matter of degrees).

I'm not entirely sure how much of his decision to drop Davis was borne of brilliant tactics.

I don't think Davis is as good as some think (hence I think some people expect too much, so a reasonable game from him by other standards is considered poor).

I'm not sure how Roos decides to keep certain underperforming players and drop others.

I think some of those comments were deliberately meant to be provocative as tongue in cheek digs.

[ROK Lobster]

Fair enough.

There are specific quotes that mention disgust, assinine, lunacy, end of membership, etc, because a (very good) player was dropped by a brilliant coach. I suggest that those making those points might not really grasp the game as well as Roosy. I stand by that view, what is yours sir?

Threats to tear up membership are generally a tongue in cheek response - I would have thought a RWO member of 2 and a half years wwould understand that. To call Roos a "brilliant" coach is certainly to "grasp the game as well as Roosy" but perhaps not understand it as many others do. He is a good coach, no doubt, but I would not call him brilliant (he might well do).

[Industrial Fan]

Threats to tear up membership are generally a tongue in cheek response - I would have thought a RWO member of 2 and a half years wwould understand that.

Rubbish - I'll be tearing up mine should Davis be named next week.

Take note Roos.

[connolly]

I'm not sure how Roos decides to keep certain underperforming players and drop others.

A clue to some of the selection decisions apart from form and match ups may be versatility and youth. If you loojk at the preference for Barlow and Bevan to Davis consider the following:

Barlow can play as a half forward, running midfielder and tallish mobile defender. He also kicks long, has hieght and a big motor. Davis apart from playing as a half forward ticks none of the other boxes. In Bevan's case he can play as a half forward, close checking defender on smalls and talls (took Brennan last year and cleaned him up and will probably have him again next Saturday night) and a defensive midfielder. He doesn't kick as long as Davis but is a better overhead contested mark, slightly faster, a much better tackler, bigger motor and is just as accurate from 40 meters. I won't mention courage and determinatiion not because they are so obvious but because some think that shouldn't count. Both these players give greater tactical adaptability during the game than Davis who in positional options only gives us two variations in one forward position. In a pocket or on a flank. Barlow and Bevo provide each four positional options. These are the type of players that so surprised Williams who admitted that he didn't see it coming. This is Roos latest response to the so called new niave football that has been favoured by AFL House. You might have noticed that niave football leads to thrashings as the "move it on running football" can be easily beaten with tactical changes on the field. A good example was the move of Bevan to the forward line. Not only did he play in the forward channell but contested overhead. I can just imagine Williams response "What the f .. ." when he took the pack mark. No team can really plan against us. We are no longer predictable. The adaptability of Bevan was also seen in the first quarter when he buried Peter Burgoyne in a monstering tackle. Burgoyne spent the rest of the match having a bit of a look. As Mike Tyson once said "Everyones got plans till they get hit". Apart from everything else Roos has produced a smart team this year. And of course there is youth. Maybe Davo fits somewhere in this type of team. Maybe not. Its up to him.

[Pace To Burn]

Fair enough.

There are specific quotes that mention disgust, assinine, lunacy, end of membership, etc, because a (very good) player was dropped by a brilliant coach. I suggest that those making those points might not really grasp the game as well as Roosy. I stand by that view, what is yours sir?

Totally agree Doc. As i said on Sat none of us here a privy to what goes on in the inner circle and i think the result yesterday speaks for itself. But dont worry even though the likes of Bevan, Hall, Bolton, Mcveigh(i think i have covered everyone normally bashed here every week) played well yesterday, im sure everyone will get another chance to give it too them again soon.

[Lucky Knickers]

You certainly must have been watching a different game to me last year if you think Bevan

(took Brennan last year and cleaned him up and will probably have him again next Saturday night)

IIRC Brennan definitely had the upper hand.

And a different one yesterday....

Burgoyne spent the rest of the match having a bit of a look.

- check out his stats. Was the only Port player who could hold his head high.

[swantastic]

And a different one yesterday(Burgoyn).... - check out his stats. Was the only Port player who could hold his head high.

I agree LN but some times stats dont tell the whole story.

[hammo]

I can just imagine Williams response "What the f .. ." when he took the pack mark.

This was certainly my response and of those around me.

[connolly]

You certainly must have been watching a different game to me last year if you think Bevan IIRC Brennan definitely had the upper hand.

And a different one yesterday.... - check out his stats. Was the only Port player who could hold his head high.

Brennan had kicked seven goals the week or so before before. From memory I think he got one and was not in the hunt. Bevo tackled Peter Burgoyne not Shaun in the first quarter (again from memory).