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  • Nico
    Veterans List
    • Jan 2003
    • 11339

    Originally posted by MarshallG
    Agree.

    We were poor getting it into inside 50 today.

    The final scoreboard robbed us of a good effort.

    The way we let them get away in the final quarter was a bit of a worry.

    We didn't deserve to loose by that much I agree, but the reason we didn't get it into 50 often enough (57 to 30 odd were the stats) was because we stuffed around over possessing inside the corridor instead of kicking long and quickly into the forward line. I was standing up the outer end goals and looking down the ground, it was obvious so many times that if we took a long kick instead of an extra handball for a turnover, we had 2 players one out against their opponents which would put so much more pressure on the defenders. Pretty stupid lateral footy much of the time.

    In the first half almost all of their goals came from our dumb turnovers, where they whipped it away and our blokes were caught flat footed.

    I thought Bevan and Mcveigh got a bit more of the footy but boy they did some dumb things. The memorable Mcveigh out on the full, and Bevo goes across the HB line into traffic when 3 players had broken down the wing and we had a clear run into goal. Must have kicked to one of his mates.

    For almost 3 quarters we more than matched them. The first Q blitz was caused by our turnovers and when Jolly went off at the 20 minute mark of the last Q Geelong got every centre break easily and scored goals from 5 out of 6 centre breaks. I thought in the middle quarters we clearly won the clearances.

    I wasn't the only one at the game perplexed at Ryan O'Keefe's refusal to have a shot at goal. First Q marks on 50 metres and tries to kick to Davis on the point post. 3rd Q wheeels onto left about 40 out and dinks a little one to nowhere. Last Q at least 5 times tried to bob little kicks to nothing for turn overs when he was on his left inside 50. Last time I remember he was a forward, forwards are paid to kick goals so why in the hell is he so gun shy. Top of the square at least Ryan or even better get yourself to the top of the square occasionally.

    How stiff was Jack with that charity to Ablett when he was over the ball and Jack did the perfect roll tackle. That and Jolly going off were the turning points.

    Ed Barlow did a little cameo in the 2nd Q and almost disappeared for the rest of the game. He did an O'Keefe and decided to handball to Moore under extreme pressure after he marked on the 50. If Bevan can kick one from 45 then surely ROK and barlow can.

    Why do we let Mattner kick out?

    We will struggle to kick goals with that forward structure. We need a big body target and the only one is White. ROK refuses to play close to goals or drift there, MOL is no longer a key forward, Nick Davis is an inigma, Jude is a waste of space, Goodes is an on baller, LRT is a CHB and nothing else and Barlow is an onballer.

    LRT was ordinary.

    Someone mentioned Jude Bolton. Lamentable when the ball is not near him, doesn't run with a player and another who did a 10 metre pass to MOL when he was 35 out and clear.

    Having said the above our middle 2 Q's were very good and first 20 minutes of the last Q was pretty good.
    http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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    • ScottH
      It's Goodes to cheer!!
      • Sep 2003
      • 23665

      Originally posted by NMWBloods
      How awesome was Wojak's run and dodge through the centre (and then put it OOTF).
      He could teach Leo how to avoid tacklers.

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      • NMWBloods
        Taking Refuge!!
        • Jan 2003
        • 15819

        Originally posted by Nico
        We didn't deserve to loose by that much I agree, but the reason we didn't get it into 50 often enough (57 to 30 odd were the stats) was because we stuffed around over possessing inside the corridor instead of kicking long and quickly into the forward line. I was standing up the outer end goals and looking down the ground, it was obvious so many times that if we took a long kick instead of an extra handball for a turnover, we had 2 players one out against their opponents which would put so much more pressure on the defenders. Pretty stupid lateral footy much of the time.
        This was thing I particularly noticed comparing our game to Geelong's. We would rush the ball to the centre, then slow down and go sideways, and then try to spot up a pass out near the boundary line. However, Geelong would get to the centre and keep going down the corridor and kick the ball in quickly, trusting their forwards to win in an even contest, which they will do much of the time.

        Bevo goes across the HB line into traffic when 3 players had broken down the wing and we had a clear run into goal. Must have kicked to one of his mates.
        Bevan may have had one of his better games, but nearly every disposal is backwards or sideways or <20m.

        For almost 3 quarters we more than matched them.
        I think we matched them by dragging them back to us.


        Why do we let Mattner kick out?
        Who else will? He really doesn't make too many mistakes.

        Someone mentioned Jude Bolton. Lamentable when the ball is not near him, doesn't run with a player and another who did a 10 metre pass to MOL when he was 35 out and clear.
        I was going to, but it's the same thing most weeks - doesn't get the ball enough and doesn't do enough with it.
        Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

        "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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        • DeadlyAkkuret
          Veterans List
          • Oct 2006
          • 4547

          Originally posted by NMWBloods
          I think we matched them by dragging them back to us.
          Is there another option? I hate when people mention this like it's a negative thing.

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          • NMWBloods
            Taking Refuge!!
            • Jan 2003
            • 15819

            Originally posted by DeadlyAkkuret
            Is there another option? I hate when people mention this like it's a negative thing.
            The other option is to improve your own game.
            Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

            "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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            • ScottH
              It's Goodes to cheer!!
              • Sep 2003
              • 23665

              Originally posted by NMWBloods
              The other option is to improve your own game.
              I thought we did improve by taking a few risks and being a bit more creative.
              Caused Geelong a few headaches.

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              • Nico
                Veterans List
                • Jan 2003
                • 11339

                Originally posted by NMWBloods
                The other option is to improve your own game.

                I agree with Deadly, I reckon we got back into the game in the 2nd Q with some darn good footy.
                http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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                • NMWBloods
                  Taking Refuge!!
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 15819

                  Originally posted by ScottH
                  I thought we did improve by taking a few risks and being a bit more creative.
                  Caused Geelong a few headaches.
                  I think there was a bit of a mix, but overall I don't think we played particularly well, but rather we applied good pressure to choke the game down a bit. Still, I thought we looked a bit more attacking than we used to slow the game down (like the Hawthorn game early last year).
                  Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

                  "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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                  • dimelb
                    pr. dim-melb; m not f
                    • Jun 2003
                    • 6889

                    Originally posted by Nico
                    I wasn't the only one at the game perplexed at Ryan O'Keefe's refusal to have a shot at goal. First Q marks on 50 metres and tries to kick to Davis on the point post. 3rd Q wheels onto left about 40 out and dinks a little one to nowhere. Last Q at least 5 times tried to bob little kicks to nothing for turn overs when he was on his left inside 50. Last time I remember he was a forward, forwards are paid to kick goals so why in the hell is he so gun shy. Top of the square at least Ryan or even better get yourself to the top of the square occasionally.

                    How stiff was Jack with that charity to Ablett when he was over the ball and Jack did the perfect roll tackle. That and Jolly going off were the turning points.
                    Strongly agree with these comments. Our accuracy has not improved and we are paying for it. And I felt sorry for Jack; Gablett was outstanding today and at that point played the ump as well as he played the ball. As for turning points I'd add the free to Bartel miles behind the play - perhaps the ump saw what happened to Baz last week and decided to give the forwards a turn?
                    But overall we just didn't play well enough. The thing that worried me most was that Geelong seemed to have more legs than we did in the last ten minutes. I like to think that shouldn't happen.
                    He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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                    • Nico
                      Veterans List
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 11339

                      NMW, Mattner takes too long to kick out. He missed a couple of players on their own by being too hesitant. He had the time where he stuffed around, was told to play on then back tracked for a point. Then he kicked straight to Geelong player in the last Q. He kicked out to Mcveigh who gloriously put it out on the full when if he was quicker he had a player on his own for an eternity further up the ground with a paddock ahead of him.

                      To a point I thought our backline played OK until late in the game when they seemed to be way off their men when they got those quick centre breaks.
                      http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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                      • swantastic
                        Veterans List
                        • Jan 2006
                        • 7275

                        Originally posted by Nico
                        I reckon we got back into the game in the 2nd Q with some darn good footy.
                        Is that you Nico or is some body else using your user name.?
                        Now this is a thread that i would expect on the ego -centric, wank session that is redandwhiteonline.com...

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                        • swantastic
                          Veterans List
                          • Jan 2006
                          • 7275

                          Originally posted by desredandwhite
                          They will bitch about anything down there

                          I'm married to one of the 1% of them who is rational, apparently.

                          Maybe this last quarter will help to bring on the baby, who is being quite stubborn at the minuet.....
                          Was she looking over your shoulder when you posted this post,by any chance?
                          Now this is a thread that i would expect on the ego -centric, wank session that is redandwhiteonline.com...

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                          • Nico
                            Veterans List
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 11339

                            Originally posted by swantastic
                            Is that you Nico or is some body else using your user name.?
                            I'm back, your worst nightmare. Do I note a bit of sarcasm there. Yes I thought we were right in it when Moore missed that goal with some genuinely tough and at times brilliant running football.

                            I think you perhaps misunderstand me. I have only seriously sunk the slipper into Jude this season with a little left over for Bevan.
                            http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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                            • swantastic
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                              • Jan 2006
                              • 7275

                              Originally posted by Nico
                              I'm back, your worst nightmare. Do I note a bit of sarcasm there. Yes I thought we were right in it when Moore missed that goal with some genuinely tough and at times brilliant running football.

                              I think you perhaps misunderstand me. I have only seriously sunk the slipper into Jude this season with a little left over for Bevan.
                              Yeah a little bit of sarcasm there.

                              IMO Bevan's been better than B1 this season so fart.
                              Now this is a thread that i would expect on the ego -centric, wank session that is redandwhiteonline.com...

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                              • Nico
                                Veterans List
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 11339

                                Originally posted by swantastic
                                Was she looking over your shoulder when you posted this post,by any chance?
                                1% is very generous. When we were walking up a side street after the game there were some very strange people wearing Geelong scarves.

                                How big is the bandwagon. You can tell them in standing room, they are the ones wearing Tiato T shirts and only know Ablett and Mooney. Well I think they know Mooney as they go Moon, Moon, Moon when he runs for the ball. The amount of people that didn't know jack about the game today was mind boggling. 2 years ago you couldn't find a Geelong supporter in the outer.
                                http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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