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  • ROK Lobster
    RWO Life Member
    • Aug 2004
    • 8658

    #16
    Originally posted by stellation
    I'm sure that playing for 80% of the game when your coach acknowledges you may be a bit underdone but has asked you to come in would have earnt praise for almost any other player on the list.
    Kirk gets great raptures for playing with less than 80% of the skills of other players, so its only fair that Davis is treated the same with 80% fitness.

    Davo - spiritual leader of the bloods, sharing a prayer with some short bald bloke in a dress!

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    • connolly
      Registered User
      • Aug 2005
      • 2461

      #17
      Originally posted by ROK Lobster
      Kirk gets great raptures for playing with less than 80% of the skills of other players, so its only fair that Davis is treated the same with 80% fitness.

      Davo - spiritual leader of the bloods, sharing a prayer with some short bald bloke in a dress!
      The thing is that those who think Davo is a good player can enjoy his last saeson with the Bloods. Yesterday he was exposed in two critical areas which are just unacceptable for a senior player.
      1. He just won't put his head over the ball. On several occassions he stopped to pick up the ball without any attack. His effort in the third quarter where metres in the clear he allowed the ball to roll over the line as he failed to get over it was a disgrace. He skirts the ball attempting to grab at it without taking a hard possession.

      2. Harley annihalited us in the last quarter. He failed yet again to close a hard running defender down when we needed it.

      He kicked one goal, one out of bounds and simply went missing when the hard ball was there to be won. The contrast with Moore couldn't be more stark.
      The way he played yesterday was as a fringe player which is what he has become. As a senior player in a club that prides itself on grit and determination he is an embarassment. Au revoir.
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      • Xie Shan
        Senior Player
        • Jan 2003
        • 2929

        #18
        Talent-wise, I think Johnson and Davis have much the same skills, to echo Liz's comments, Johnson is just better at pulling goals out of his arse! I suppose you could argue Davis was a bit disappointing yesterday given it was a chance for him to shine and he didn't for whatever reason (not sure how much his recent illness was a factor), but he certainly wasn't alone in that regard. MO'L was probably our most disappointing forward on the day. I think he'll need to deliver next week though, North's backline is nowhere near as stingy as Geelong's.

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        • ROK Lobster
          RWO Life Member
          • Aug 2004
          • 8658

          #19
          Originally posted by connolly
          2. Harley annihalited us in the last quarter. He failed yet again to close a hard running defender down when we needed it.
          Yes, let's contrast that with Bevan's great shut down job on Ablett in the second half of the final quarter.

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          • ScottH
            It's Goodes to cheer!!
            • Sep 2003
            • 23665

            #20
            Originally posted by ROK Lobster
            Yes, let's contrast that with Bevan's great shut down job on Ablett in the second half of the final quarter.
            Ablett kicked 2 first 1/2 (Jack) and 1 2nd 1/2 (Bevan) goals.

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            • ROK Lobster
              RWO Life Member
              • Aug 2004
              • 8658

              #21
              Originally posted by ScottH
              Ablett kicked 2 first 1/2 (Jack) and 1 2nd 1/2 (Bevan) goals.
              Was hardly noticed after Bevan went on to him. Bevo nearly won us the game, such was the pressure he applied. If only we had 17 Bevos...

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              • connolly
                Registered User
                • Aug 2005
                • 2461

                #22
                Originally posted by ROK Lobster
                Was hardly noticed after Bevan went on to him. Bevo nearly won us the game, such was the pressure he applied. If only we had 17 Bevos...
                The player to compare him to is Jarrad Moore because when we have Hall back that is the player he will compete with for a spot. Moore is determined, puts his head over the ball, kicks big goals, kicks tough goals and is young. Davis is . . . well you join the dots. Davis will be dropped and Jesse White will give us some height up forward. Look on the bright side - you'll be seeing a lot of Kid Terrific in Canberrra this season.
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                • stellation
                  scott names the planets
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 9723

                  #23
                  Originally posted by connolly
                  The thing is that those who think Davo is a good player can enjoy his last saeson with the Bloods. Yesterday he was exposed in two critical areas which are just unacceptable for a senior player.
                  1. He just won't put his head over the ball. On several occassions he stopped to pick up the ball without any attack. His effort in the third quarter where metres in the clear he allowed the ball to roll over the line as he failed to get over it was a disgrace. He skirts the ball attempting to grab at it without taking a hard possession.
                  I just went back and watched the play, go back and watch it yourself. Davis has his head over the ball and just fumbles an unlucky bounce. The ball should have been on his chest, not on the ground anyway, and unlike McVeigh a few minutes earlier who also fumbled a poor kick out of bounds Davis did not turn and yell at his teammate.
                  Have you played much football? If he lifted his head it was to see what was open downfield.

                  Originally posted by connolly
                  2. Harley annihalited us in the last quarter. He failed yet again to close a hard running defender down when we needed it.
                  See this is where I really call bull@@@@ on you, I just wasted half an hour of my life going back to watch Harley's domination in the final quarter because I didn't remember it at all.
                  My summary of Harley's dominance in the final quarter after watching the replay;
                  *Game there to be won*
                  • 1 kick from an uncontested mark as Geelong went backwards after Craig Bolton had turned over the ball booting it out of defence.
                  • 1 handball from an uncontested mark from a long kick in. The Swans were zoning out, Davis' was on the other side of the ground and the person in the zone that Harley slipped past was either Moore or Buchanan, all I can see is a 3 on a stocky guy.

                  *Cats in front by 30, game over*
                  • 1 kick from a free for hands in the back against Davis in a marking contest after Kirk sends a floater forward to a pack. I didn't notice it during the game, but watching the replay Davis may have be a bit stiff on that call.

                  Harley did not run off Davis with the ball nor to receive the ball once in the final quarter. He had very little to do with Geelong running away with the game.
                  I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
                  We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

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                  • ROK Lobster
                    RWO Life Member
                    • Aug 2004
                    • 8658

                    #24
                    Originally posted by stellation
                    Harley did not run off Davis with the ball nor to receive the ball once in the final quarter. He had very little to do with Geelong running away with the game.
                    But would have been less if Bevo had have been standing on him.

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                    • connolly
                      Registered User
                      • Aug 2005
                      • 2461

                      #25
                      Originally posted by stellation
                      I just went back and watched the play, go back and watch it yourself. Davis has his head over the ball and just fumbles an unlucky bounce. The ball should have been on his chest, not on the ground anyway, and unlike McVeigh a few minutes earlier who also fumbled a poor kick out of bounds Davis did not turn and yell at his teammate.
                      Have you played much football? If he lifted his head it was to see what was open downfield.


                      See this is where I really call bull@@@@ on you, I just wasted half an hour of my life going back to watch Harley's domination in the final quarter because I didn't remember it at all.
                      My summary of Harley's dominance in the final quarter after watching the replay;
                      *Game there to be won*
                      • 1 kick from an uncontested mark as Geelong went backwards after Craig Bolton had turned over the ball booting it out of defence.
                      • 1 handball from an uncontested mark from a long kick in. The Swans were zoning out, Davis' was on the other side of the ground and the person in the zone that Harley slipped past was either Moore or Buchanan, all I can see is a 3 on a stocky guy.

                      *Cats in front by 30, game over*
                      • 1 kick from a free for hands in the back against Davis in a marking contest after Kirk sends a floater forward to a pack. I didn't notice it during the game, but watching the replay Davis may have be a bit stiff on that call.

                      Harley did not run off Davis with the ball nor to receive the ball once in the final quarter. He had very little to do with Geelong running away with the game.
                      Sorry I wasted your life. But did you see Davis lay a tackle in the last quarter? I'll check the replay as well because I didn't. We were killed off the Cats half back line in the last quarter and Davis went missing in the last quarter. He was rated as our third worst player. Thats generous as he was the worst. And yes I did play football and had/have no respect for players who bludged on their team mates.
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                      • stellation
                        scott names the planets
                        • Sep 2003
                        • 9723

                        #26
                        Originally posted by connolly
                        Sorry I wasted your life. But did you see Davis lay a tackle in the last quarter? I'll check the replay as well because I didn't. We were killed off the Cats half back line in the last quarter and Davis went missing in the last quarter. He was rated as our third worst player. Thats generous as he was the worst. And yes I did play football and had/have no respect for players who bludged on their team mates.
                        I'm sorry, is it lack of tackling or Harley annihilating us?
                        I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
                        We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

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                        • connolly
                          Registered User
                          • Aug 2005
                          • 2461

                          #27
                          Originally posted by stellation
                          I'm sorry, is it lack of tackling or Harley annihilating us?
                          The two are related. Ill take your advice and watch the replay and get back to you.
                          Bevo bandwagon driver

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                          • stellation
                            scott names the planets
                            • Sep 2003
                            • 9723

                            #28
                            Originally posted by connolly
                            The two are related. Ill take your advice and watch the replay and get back to you.
                            I don't see how they are, if Davis did tackle Harley at any point before he disposed of the ball he would have given away a 50 metre penalty. I appreciate that Bevo would have done it, but that doesn't make it right
                            I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
                            We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

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                            • NMWBloods
                              Taking Refuge!!
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 15819

                              #29
                              Originally posted by connolly
                              The thing is that those who think Davo is a good player can enjoy his last saeson with the Bloods. Yesterday he was exposed in two critical areas which are just unacceptable for a senior player.
                              1. He just won't put his head over the ball. On several occassions he stopped to pick up the ball without any attack. His effort in the third quarter where metres in the clear he allowed the ball to roll over the line as he failed to get over it was a disgrace. He skirts the ball attempting to grab at it without taking a hard possession.
                              That's just silly - it was simply a fumble, nothing to do not being 'hard' or 'putting your head over the ball'. Perhaps it would help if players could hit targets with simple kicks, rather than putting them at their feet.

                              2. Harley annihalited us in the last quarter. He failed yet again to close a hard running defender down when we needed it.
                              What a load of rubbish - Harley had 3 (yes, just three) possessions in the last quarter. Surely it's revisionist history in the extreme to suggest this was the cause of a Geelong 8-goal quarter!?!

                              He kicked one goal, one out of bounds and simply went missing when the hard ball was there to be won. The contrast with Moore couldn't be more stark.
                              He had 3 CP, Moore had 3 CP. He had 80% effectiveness, Moore had 56%.
                              Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

                              "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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                              • NMWBloods
                                Taking Refuge!!
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 15819

                                #30
                                Originally posted by connolly
                                Sorry I wasted your life. But did you see Davis lay a tackle in the last quarter? I'll check the replay as well because I didn't. We were killed off the Cats half back line in the last quarter and Davis went missing in the last quarter.
                                Given we had only 38 I50s for the game, scoring on 22 occasions, and given that it was the midfield of Geelong that killed us, it seems rather unlikely that you can point to the Geelong half back line or Davis specifically being the engineer of our downfall.
                                He was rated as our third worst player. Thats generous as he was the worst. And yes I did play football and had/have no respect for players who bludged on their team mates.
                                He did lay a tackle on Harley on the wing. Now, how did Harley annihilate us again and how is Davis responsible for their 8-goal quarter?
                                Last edited by NMWBloods; 20 April 2008, 03:49 PM.
                                Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

                                "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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