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  • Legs Akimbo
    Grand Poobah
    • Apr 2005
    • 2809

    Aker implicates Sydney player as drug cheat

    Braun wasn't only name on Aker's hit list | The Australian

    I wonder if he was talking about Crouch?

    Surely Akermanis would have known that leveling such accusations based on his subjective opinion is (a) a waste of time and (b) injurious to the reputation of the players involved and of their clubs.

    I have no respect for this individual at all.
    He had observed that people who did lie were, on the whole, more resourceful and ambitious and successful than people who did not lie.
  • connolly
    Registered User
    • Aug 2005
    • 2461

    #2
    Basically anyone who cleaned up the little yapper was/is on drugs apparently. The article should keep Crouchy in fine wine well into his retirement.
    Bevo bandwagon driver

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    • dimelb
      pr. dim-melb; m not f
      • Jun 2003
      • 6889

      #3
      "Now that confidentiality has been undermined, the integrity of the system as a whole is seriously in question," Bell said.
      He's absolutely right. I think Akermanis is genuine in his beliefs if mistaken on the evidence. In any case a player ought to be able to trust the testing agency. If they can't, then scrap it and try something else.
      He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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      • AnnieH
        RWOs Black Sheep
        • Aug 2006
        • 11332

        #4
        Aker is a first class tool-box.

        If Rocket was a better coach, he'd be able to pull Aker's head in for him.

        Where's his proof?
        Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
        Blessed are the cracked for they are the ones who let in the light.

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        • hammo
          Veterans List
          • Jul 2003
          • 5554

          #5
          Originally posted by Annie Haddad
          Aker is a first class tool-box.

          If Rocket was a better coach, he'd be able to pull Aker's head in for him.

          Where's his proof?
          Before everyone blows up at Aker, keep in mind he provided the names in confidence to ASDA and somehow there has been a leak to the Australian.

          I thought the original article (which ultimately outed Braun) was poor, however players should be encouraged to report any suspicions of drug use to ASDA, then allow that agency to investigate. There is nothing here that suggests to me that Aker has done anything wrong.
          "As everyone knows our style of football is defensive and unattractive, and as such I have completely forgotten how to mark or kick over the years" - Brett Kirk

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          • ROK Lobster
            RWO Life Member
            • Aug 2004
            • 8658

            #6
            Originally posted by hammo
            There is nothing here that suggests to me that Aker has done anything wrong.
            He's a first rate player who never played for the Swans. He deserves our irrational wrath.

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            • NMWBloods
              Taking Refuge!!
              • Jan 2003
              • 15819

              #7
              Originally posted by Annie Haddad
              Aker is a first class tool-box.

              If Rocket was a better coach, he'd be able to pull Aker's head in for him.
              If only Matthews was a better coach too...
              Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

              "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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              • NMWBloods
                Taking Refuge!!
                • Jan 2003
                • 15819

                #8
                People on RWO complaining about Aker's comments about drug using are the same ones who called West Coast cheating drug users. Does that seem strange...
                Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

                "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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                • AnnieH
                  RWOs Black Sheep
                  • Aug 2006
                  • 11332

                  #9
                  Originally posted by NMWBloods
                  People on RWO complaining about Aker's comments about drug using are the same ones who called West Coast cheating drug users. Does that seem strange...
                  Not at all. We ended up having proof (via admission) that the criminals are drug cheats.

                  Where's his proof? He can "suspect" till the cows come home, but without proof (or admission) he's a tool-box talking out of his arse.
                  Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
                  Blessed are the cracked for they are the ones who let in the light.

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                  • liz
                    Veteran
                    Site Admin
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 16772

                    #10
                    Originally posted by hammo
                    Before everyone blows up at Aker, keep in mind he provided the names in confidence to ASDA and somehow there has been a leak to the Australian.

                    I thought the original article (which ultimately outed Braun) was poor, however players should be encouraged to report any suspicions of drug use to ASDA, then allow that agency to investigate. There is nothing here that suggests to me that Aker has done anything wrong.
                    I agree with most of what you say.

                    While I agree that players have the right - maybe even the duty - to report their suspicions through the appropriate channels, I think a bit of evidence is probably a good thing before you do so. It is not uncommon for players to change their size / fitness over a fairly short period of time and presumably most (if not all) do so using completely legitimate methods.

                    Aker's big mistake was to use the media to report his original suspicions rather than just using the appropriate channels. If he had, no-one would have been alerted to his accusations and this article would almost certainly never have been written. As it is, this article doesn't really do a whole lot for Aker.

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                    • Legs Akimbo
                      Grand Poobah
                      • Apr 2005
                      • 2809

                      #11
                      Originally posted by NMWBloods
                      People on RWO complaining about Aker's comments about drug using are the same ones who called West Coast cheating drug users. Does that seem strange...
                      Spot the difference

                      Akermanis makes accusations of steroid use against players who can run faster than him. Names one individual and other clubs, thereby effectively casting into doubt the legitimicy and honesty of 36 people or more players without the a shred of evidence.

                      vs.

                      Cousins admits to being a repeat offending recreational drug user. Kerr caught phoning a dealer to score some horse tranquiliser and that other guys (allegedly) ends flat lining in a Las Vegas emergency room after taking illegal substances. An ex player in close contact with current players, dies from a drug overdose. Various players known associates of criminal bikie gangs with form in the area of amphetamine trading. The AFL's review, and the West Coast's own externall appointed review, both conclude systematic failures of culture and oversight.

                      Does that explain it or do I really need to spell it out?
                      He had observed that people who did lie were, on the whole, more resourceful and ambitious and successful than people who did not lie.

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                      • jenky28
                        Our Edge Is Reg
                        • Jun 2004
                        • 564

                        #12
                        Crouch is definately not a drug cheat!
                        I could never stand aker even prior to the Crouch V Aker thing.
                        He needs to learn to keep his oppinions to himself unless he has proof!
                        OUR EDGE IS REG

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                        • swantastic
                          Veterans List
                          • Jan 2006
                          • 7275

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Legs Akimbo
                          Spot the difference

                          Akermanis makes accusations of steroid use against players who can run faster than him. Names one individual and other clubs, thereby effectively casting into doubt the legitimicy and honesty of 36 people or more players without the a shred of evidence.

                          vs.

                          Cousins admits to being a repeat offending recreational drug user. Kerr caught phoning a dealer to score some horse tranquiliser and that other guys (allegedly) ends flat lining in a Las Vegas emergency room after taking illegal substances. An ex player in close contact with current players, dies from a drug overdose. Various players known associates of criminal bikie gangs with form in the area of amphetamine trading. The AFL's review, and the West Coast's own externall appointed review, both conclude systematic failures of culture and oversight.

                          Does that explain it or do I really need to spell it out?
                          Very well put Legs.
                          Now this is a thread that i would expect on the ego -centric, wank session that is redandwhiteonline.com...

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                          • reigning premier
                            Suspended by the MRP
                            • Sep 2006
                            • 4335

                            #14
                            Originally posted by jenky28
                            Crouch is definately not a drug cheat!
                            I could never stand aker even prior to the Crouch V Aker thing.
                            He needs to learn to keep his oppinions to himself unless he has proof!

                            Couldn't agree more.

                            Crouch wouldn't be caught anywhere near steroids or EPO.

                            However... Never let him get in your spliff circle... As I keep telling him.. "Two tokes and pass to the left Crouchy" but he won't listen... Just keeps puffing away...

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                            • NMWBloods
                              Taking Refuge!!
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 15819

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Annie Haddad
                              Not at all. We ended up having proof (via admission) that the criminals are drug cheats.
                              We had proof that some Eagles players used recreational drugs. Not the same thing as saying the whole team is on performance-enhancing drugs. And the claims of WC being drug cheats was said long before any proof arrived.
                              Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

                              "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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