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  • liz
    Veteran
    Site Admin
    • Jan 2003
    • 16787

    #31
    Originally posted by SimonH
    Only one more spot might need to be created to make way for a rookie promotion (presumably Smith). Space could possibly be created by way of trade as well. Which is a whole separate thread.
    Suspect it depends on what they view the depth of this draft to be like (as opposed to the top end quality, which people are already saying is top shelf). We have a squeeze on spots even down to the rookie list and the club is going to need to weigh up the prospects of Smith, Bruce and O'Dwyer against their potential replacements in this year's draft.

    As I wrote elsewhere, under current rules only 3 rookies can be retained for a 2nd/3rd year without being promoted or delisted and redrafted. Two of those spots must already be earmarked for Murphy and Orreal as there was no point taking them otherwise (with the only exception being if they decide to promote Murphy at the end of this year). Based on what I've seen so far this year, each of Smith, Bruce and O'Dwyer has shown enough to suggest they might be worth persisting with for another year but to keep them all without going down the delist path, two will need to be promoted if they want to keep all three (plus Murphy and Orreal).

    (And given that Smith showed huge improvement in the second half of last season, which probably earned him a second year, it would be foolish to dismiss either Beckmans or Terlich completely when the year is only half over.)

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    • Robbo
      On the Rookie List
      • May 2007
      • 2946

      #32
      DOK can't take a trick.

      Anyone know what's wrong with his groin, is it OP?

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      • SimonH
        Salt future's rising
        • Aug 2004
        • 1647

        #33
        Originally posted by liz
        As I wrote elsewhere, under current rules only 3 rookies can be retained for a 2nd/3rd year without being promoted or delisted and redrafted. Two of those spots must already be earmarked for Murphy and Orreal as there was no point taking them otherwise (with the only exception being if they decide to promote Murphy at the end of this year). Based on what I've seen so far this year, each of Smith, Bruce and O'Dwyer has shown enough to suggest they might be worth persisting with for another year but to keep them all without going down the delist path, two will need to be promoted if they want to keep all three (plus Murphy and Orreal).
        Whether out of politeness or simple lack of interest, it is extremely rare for a club to delist a player with the intention of re-drafting, and get gazumped by another club picking 'em first. (Can't think of a single instance where it's happened, or even where it's rumoured that the delisting club really wanted them back.) Amon Buchanan being perhaps the best-known example.

        So if Sydney want to 'keep' Bruce and O'Dwyer (and even Terlich) on top of Orreal and Murphy, I reckon the delist and re-rookie plan would be safe enough. (Although for O'D, after 2 years rookie you'd think it'd be time to fish or cut bait as to promotion or delisting.)

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        • SimonH
          Salt future's rising
          • Aug 2004
          • 1647

          #34
          Bugger, bugger, bugger. The Swans' updated injury list is now up. Firstly, what the hell does "1 week" mean vis-a-vis Spida, Barlow and Fossie? Like, 7 days, or one match? I think we need Spida vs the Woods.

          Secondly, terrible to see that Laidlaw has now degenerated to "indefinite" after being just '1-2 weeks' recently. Based on some now slightly ageing performances, he looked to have a really big future. Should have been playing seniors semi-regularly this year if he were fit. Just needs to get on the park.

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          • Bas
            Veterans List
            • Jan 2003
            • 4457

            #35
            Spida is contracted for next year. So he's not going anywhere. You never know but his "?njury"' has been against teams we were expected to beat so you might find he has been given a mid season fresh up for a heavy run into the finals.
            In memory of my little Staffy - Dicey, 17.06.2005 to 1.12.2011- I'll miss you mate.

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            • SimonH
              Salt future's rising
              • Aug 2004
              • 1647

              #36
              Near enough to official confirmation that the now-starting-to-train (but still not going to play this year) Kristin Thornton will not be cut at the end of 2008.

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              • gossipcom
                Senior Player
                • Aug 2003
                • 2585

                #37
                Damn 3 players now are listed for season. Brett Meredith's gone from test to season. Also Fossie's now 1-2 weeks. So he's no chance for the Hawks match.


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                • ugg
                  Can you feel it?
                  Site Admin
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 15976

                  #38
                  Good to see Faulks is okay. Bad luck for Meredith.
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                  • Donners
                    On the Rookie List
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 1061

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Bas
                    Spida is contracted for next year. So he's not going anywhere.
                    I was under the impression he was signed on a two-year deal, and he certainly hasn't been re-signed.

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                    • swansrule100
                      The quarterback
                      • May 2004
                      • 4538

                      #40
                      schmidt out for year?

                      Injury List after round 15
                      Player Injury Status
                      Tadhg Kennelly
                      Shoulder Test

                      Nick Malceski
                      Calf Test

                      Nic Fosdike
                      Hamstring 1 week

                      Ed Barlow Hamstring 1 week

                      Matthew Laidlaw
                      Hamstring Indefinite
                      Daniel O'Keefe
                      Groin Season
                      Kristin Thornton
                      Knee ACL
                      Season

                      Brett Meredith
                      Shoulder
                      Season

                      Nick Davis
                      Knee
                      Season

                      Tim Schmidt
                      Knee
                      Season
                      Theres not much left to say

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                      • stellation
                        scott names the planets
                        • Sep 2003
                        • 9723

                        #41
                        Hooly dooly!
                        I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
                        We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

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                        • Industrial Fan
                          Goodesgoodesgoodesgoodes!
                          • Aug 2006
                          • 3318

                          #42
                          Poor timing for Laidlaw too - who seemed certain to get a run in the 1st team this year.
                          He ate more cheese, than time allowed

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                          • ScottH
                            It's Goodes to cheer!!
                            • Sep 2003
                            • 23665

                            #43
                            Misson in action?

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                            • SimonH
                              Salt future's rising
                              • Aug 2004
                              • 1647

                              #44
                              This is just awful news. With effectively 6 guys out for the season now, it's turned out to be a relatively poor year injury-wise. Our 2nd-tier has been cut from under us. Only good thing is that there are now heaps of slots for promotion if the Swans feel like giving 4 rookies a game!

                              The real question with Schmidt is 'what did he do to his knee?' Because if it's an ACL, the club has got a nasty decision as to whether he won't be ready until part-way through the 2009 season, or whether they go down the Malceski route. After 5 long years of solid if largely unspectacular progress, surely they wouldn't dump him now.

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                              • Rod_
                                Senior Player
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 1179

                                #45
                                Good question, what did he do fall in the shower or something...

                                Rod_

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