Injury News

[liz]

Only one more spot might need to be created to make way for a rookie promotion (presumably Smith). Space could possibly be created by way of trade as well. Which is a whole separate thread.

Suspect it depends on what they view the depth of this draft to be like (as opposed to the top end quality, which people are already saying is top shelf). We have a squeeze on spots even down to the rookie list and the club is going to need to weigh up the prospects of Smith, Bruce and O'Dwyer against their potential replacements in this year's draft.

As I wrote elsewhere, under current rules only 3 rookies can be retained for a 2nd/3rd year without being promoted or delisted and redrafted. Two of those spots must already be earmarked for Murphy and Orreal as there was no point taking them otherwise (with the only exception being if they decide to promote Murphy at the end of this year). Based on what I've seen so far this year, each of Smith, Bruce and O'Dwyer has shown enough to suggest they might be worth persisting with for another year but to keep them all without going down the delist path, two will need to be promoted if they want to keep all three (plus Murphy and Orreal).

(And given that Smith showed huge improvement in the second half of last season, which probably earned him a second year, it would be foolish to dismiss either Beckmans or Terlich completely when the year is only half over.)

[Robbo]

DOK can't take a trick.

Anyone know what's wrong with his groin, is it OP?

[SimonH]

As I wrote elsewhere, under current rules only 3 rookies can be retained for a 2nd/3rd year without being promoted or delisted and redrafted. Two of those spots must already be earmarked for Murphy and Orreal as there was no point taking them otherwise (with the only exception being if they decide to promote Murphy at the end of this year). Based on what I've seen so far this year, each of Smith, Bruce and O'Dwyer has shown enough to suggest they might be worth persisting with for another year but to keep them all without going down the delist path, two will need to be promoted if they want to keep all three (plus Murphy and Orreal).

Whether out of politeness or simple lack of interest, it is extremely rare for a club to delist a player with the intention of re-drafting, and get gazumped by another club picking 'em first. (Can't think of a single instance where it's happened, or even where it's rumoured that the delisting club really wanted them back.) Amon Buchanan being perhaps the best-known example.

So if Sydney want to 'keep' Bruce and O'Dwyer (and even Terlich) on top of Orreal and Murphy, I reckon the delist and re-rookie plan would be safe enough. (Although for O'D, after 2 years rookie you'd think it'd be time to fish or cut bait as to promotion or delisting.)

[SimonH]

Bugger, bugger, bugger. The Swans' updated injury list is now up. Firstly, what the hell does "1 week" mean vis-a-vis Spida, Barlow and Fossie? Like, 7 days, or one match? I think we need Spida vs the Woods.

Secondly, terrible to see that Laidlaw has now degenerated to "indefinite" after being just '1-2 weeks' recently. Based on some now slightly ageing performances, he looked to have a really big future. Should have been playing seniors semi-regularly this year if he were fit. Just needs to get on the park.

[Bas]

Spida is contracted for next year. So he's not going anywhere. You never know but his "?njury"' has been against teams we were expected to beat so you might find he has been given a mid season fresh up for a heavy run into the finals.

[SimonH]

Near enough to official confirmation that the now-starting-to-train (but still not going to play this year) Kristin Thornton will not be cut at the end of 2008.

[gossipcom]

Damn 3 players now are listed for season. Brett Meredith's gone from test to season. Also Fossie's now 1-2 weeks. So he's no chance for the Hawks match.


Injury List

[ugg]

Good to see Faulks is okay. Bad luck for Meredith.

[Donners]

Spida is contracted for next year. So he's not going anywhere.

I was under the impression he was signed on a two-year deal, and he certainly hasn't been re-signed.

[swansrule100]

schmidt out for year?

Injury List after round 15
Player Injury Status
Tadhg Kennelly
Shoulder Test

Nick Malceski
Calf Test

Nic Fosdike
Hamstring 1 week

Ed Barlow Hamstring 1 week

Matthew Laidlaw
Hamstring Indefinite
Daniel O'Keefe
Groin Season
Kristin Thornton
Knee ACL
Season

Brett Meredith
Shoulder
Season

Nick Davis
Knee
Season

Tim Schmidt
Knee
Season

[stellation]

Hooly dooly!

[Industrial Fan]

Poor timing for Laidlaw too - who seemed certain to get a run in the 1st team this year.

[ScottH]

Misson in action?

[SimonH]

This is just awful news. With effectively 6 guys out for the season now, it's turned out to be a relatively poor year injury-wise. Our 2nd-tier has been cut from under us. Only good thing is that there are now heaps of slots for promotion if the Swans feel like giving 4 rookies a game!

The real question with Schmidt is 'what did he do to his knee?' Because if it's an ACL, the club has got a nasty decision as to whether he won't be ready until part-way through the 2009 season, or whether they go down the Malceski route. After 5 long years of solid if largely unspectacular progress, surely they wouldn't dump him now.

[Rod_]

Good question, what did he do fall in the shower or something...

Rod_