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  • ROK Lobster
    RWO Life Member
    • Aug 2004
    • 8658

    What are the 99%ers

    I get sick of hearing about players doing the 1%ers. Everything seems to be a 1%er. Are there simply 100 things that players are meant to do, and we applaud when someone does one of them? Or do all players do 99% of things, and only the elite do the last 1%?
  • SimonH
    Salt future's rising
    • Aug 2004
    • 1647

    #2
    My reading of it is none-of-the-above. It's, "99% of the time this attempt at tackling/blocking/shepherding/chasing/providing a long lead etc will be a waste of time and achieve nothing; but I'm gunna do it anyway, for that 1% chance it will actually be of use".

    If those companies that actually compile 1%-er stats actually told us what they included in, and excluded from, those statistics-- and backed that up with video footage examples of what is and isn't a 1%-er-- then everyone would have a good laugh and the myth of the 1%-er as a statistic that tells you anything at all about the game you're watching, would be well and truly exploded.

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    • Wardy
      The old Boiler!
      • Sep 2003
      • 6676

      #3
      Originally posted by ROK Lobster
      I get sick of hearing about players doing the 1%ers. Everything seems to be a 1%er. Are there simply 100 things that players are meant to do, and we applaud when someone does one of them? Or do all players do 99% of things, and only the elite do the last 1%?

      I dont get that crap either - to me you play footy - there are five levels of perfomance

      Excellent
      Good
      Average
      Below Average
      Crap

      Yes that is simplifying the situation - I think stats are getting in the way of good play. I really dont care about how many disposals a player has - all I care about is that the team get in, play hard, kick goals and hopefully win. that will do me! I know its a science now - and I guess it creates employment for statisticians, but I really think its all a bit over the top when at the day its only footy!
      I used to be indecisive, but now I'm not so sure..................
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      • Go Swannies
        Veterans List
        • Sep 2003
        • 5697

        #4
        Did anyone hear the ABC's hour-long interview with Leigh Matthews where he differentiated between viewing the game as a fan and as a coach? He said even he is sometimes guilty of viewing a player's performance through his "fan" eyes.

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        • Wardy
          The old Boiler!
          • Sep 2003
          • 6676

          #5
          Originally posted by Go Swannies
          Did anyone hear the ABC's hour-long interview with Leigh Matthews where he differentiated between viewing the game as a fan and as a coach? He said even he is sometimes guilty of viewing a player's performance through his "fan" eyes.

          Why should he feel guilty? the thing is that he was first and foremost a footy fan, that is why he actually played the game. He was good at it too, and the fans loved him for it - so if there were no fans, there would be no game!
          I used to be indecisive, but now I'm not so sure..................
          Chickens drink - but they don't pee!
          AGE IS ONLY IMPORTANT FOR TWO THINGS - WINE & CHEESE!

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          • Go Swannies
            Veterans List
            • Sep 2003
            • 5697

            #6
            Roughly paraphrasing him, he says that no professional player ever goes on the field to give less than 100%. So when he's annoyed by a player's performance, as a coach he has to analyse what is wrong with the player or the structure. As a fan, he's merely annoyed at a player apparently not giving his all and that simplicity leads him to him make mistakes.

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            • RogueSwan
              McVeigh for Brownlow
              • Apr 2003
              • 4602

              #7
              Originally posted by Wardy
              ... I really dont care about how many disposals a player has - all I care about is that the team get in, play hard, kick goals and hopefully win. that will do me!
              Here, here.
              I have never really followed disposals/possessions. The only stats I really pay attention to are goals/behinds and marks. Sometimes I will wonder about tackles but that all.
              "Fortunately, this is the internet, so knowing nothing is no obstacle to having an opinion!." Beerman 18-07-2017

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              • Mike_B
                Peyow Peyow
                • Jan 2003
                • 6267

                #8
                Originally posted by RogueSwan
                Here, here.
                I have never really followed disposals/possessions. The only stats I really pay attention to are goals/behinds and marks. Sometimes I will wonder about tackles but that all.
                Marks are pretty meaningless these days too. Take Joel Bowden last weekend - 23 marks, all but one or two uncontested in miles of space. What does it mean except that they kept turning back/switching play to go through him?

                I'm on the Chandwagon!!!

                If you cannot compete for the premiership, it's better to be young and exciting than middle-aged and dowdy.

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                • ScottH
                  It's Goodes to cheer!!
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 23665

                  #9
                  Very true mike.
                  Like the efficiency stats. The top 5 are our back line. they also site high in the uncontested possession list, indicating they can hit a free target when chipping it around whilst the opposition are sitting a kick away from play. (or is that flooding)

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                  • CJK
                    Human
                    • Apr 2006
                    • 2170

                    #10
                    A '1%ers' = ye olde sporting cliche 'giving 101%'?
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                    • RogueSwan
                      McVeigh for Brownlow
                      • Apr 2003
                      • 4602

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Mike_B
                      Marks are pretty meaningless these days too. Take Joel Bowden last weekend - 23 marks, all but one or two uncontested in miles of space. What does it mean except that they kept turning back/switching play to go through him?
                      Okay, I will filter out uncontested marks.
                      "Fortunately, this is the internet, so knowing nothing is no obstacle to having an opinion!." Beerman 18-07-2017

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                      • goswannie14
                        Leadership Group
                        • Sep 2005
                        • 11166

                        #12
                        My take on it FWIW,

                        1%ers are the spectacular, exceptional or unexpected.

                        99%ers are all the "normal" everyday footy stuff.
                        Does God believe in Atheists?

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                        • ROK Lobster
                          RWO Life Member
                          • Aug 2004
                          • 8658

                          #13
                          Originally posted by SimonH
                          My reading of it is none-of-the-above. It's, "99% of the time this attempt at tackling/blocking/shepherding/chasing/providing a long lead etc will be a waste of time and achieve nothing; but I'm gunna do it anyway, for that 1% chance it will actually be of use".
                          I think that is an excellent definition.

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                          • NMWBloods
                            Taking Refuge!!
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 15819

                            #14
                            It represents the little things that often go unnoticed but can be rewarding for the team. They get the 1%er name because they are a little thing but they can add up to a lot. The stats for them reflect shepherds, smothers, spoils and knock-ons.
                            Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

                            "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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