I was a failed Blood Brother: Inside the Swans Inner Circle

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Does anyone else think it would be an interesting story? The club has been pretty successful running as a (seemingly) boy's club but they do seem to have racked up some collateral damage along the way. Spriggs, Scooter, Chambers, Willoughby, Schauble, Davis, Hall(?) can all tell a tale or two of the inner sanctum I'm sure.

Do the ends justify the means?

[ROK Lobster]

Does anyone else think it would be an interesting story? The club has been pretty successful running as a (seemingly) boy's club but they do seem to have racked up some collateral damage along the way. Spriggs, Scooter, Chambers, Willoughby, Schauble, Davis, Hall(?) can all tell a tale or two of the inner sanctum I'm sure.

Do the ends justify the means?

We won a premiership in 2005 FFS! Of course it does. In fact, I am pretty sure that Brett Kirk was responsible for the first 3 as well.

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I think it is swan-@@@@ing-tastic, as the great minds say, that the club won a premiership in 2005. Swantastic!

Quite a few failed bodies falling by the wayside, though. Same as any club I guess. Is it possible that the Swans, Paul Roos included, aren't perfect?

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Does anyone else think it would be an interesting story? The club has been pretty successful running as a (seemingly) boy's club but they do seem to have racked up some collateral damage along the way. Spriggs, Scooter, Chambers, Willoughby, Schauble, Davis, Hall(?) can all tell a tale or two of the inner sanctum I'm sure.

Do the ends justify the means?

Oh please Spriggs, Chambers and Scooter were not good enough to play regular senior football, that's a fact. We will never know about Willoughby but the club gave him plenty of opportunity to prove himself and the football department decided he wasn't up to it.

Schauble's body let him down nothing else.

If it is a boys club then it's highly likely Davis would never have played with us and Hall obiviously has personal issues at present which means the club can not be sure putting him out on the field will not result in him seriously hurting someone.

None of this has anything to do with a boys club.

It's an overall team (players and footy department) that has set high standards and will not for anyone allow those to be flaunted from within.

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[NMWBloods]

Spriggs won a B&F in the reserves - he obviously improved a lot. Maybe he was ready for another go (after all Buchanan and Kirk were not ready at first) and he only played 5 games with us.

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Oh please Spriggs, Chambers and Scooter were not good enough to play regular senior football, that's a fact.

Chambers and Scooter may be fair, but I do think Spriggs got a bit of a rough deal in his last year.

Schauble's body let him down nothing else.

I honestly don't think that was the case.

But in general I'm just being an arse. I still think an inside story would be very, very interesting. It'd be the same for most clubs.

[ROK Lobster]

I honestly don't think that was the case.

He had grey hair.

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Chambers and Scooter may be fair, but I do think Spriggs got a bit of a rough deal in his last year.

I honestly don't think that was the case.

But in general I'm just being an arse.

We could argue about Spriggs, I saw it as a choice between him and Fosdike (both elite runners) and in end Fosdike had better disposal skills so he stayed. It's telling that not even Carlton game him a go after we cut him so that says something.

Schauble is on record as saying that his body would not have allowed him to play back to back games in 2005 at senior level, let alone another season. I would have loved to see both Schuable and Maxfield play in the GF in 2005 (they deserved it) but we would never have won that game with both of them in it.

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He had grey hair.

Well that's true, he did.

Took a screamer of a pack mark in his last game, don't see too many frail old men doing that.

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I would have loved to see both Schuable and Maxfield play in the GF in 2005 (they deserved it) but we would never have won that game with both of them in it.

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No one is saying that Maxfield should have played

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Schauble > Maxfield.

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No one is saying that Maxfield should have played

No they arn't but the thread intimates that playing spots and team selection is based on who is in a club and who is not.

That is clearly not the case otherwise players like Schuable and Maxfield would have played on in 2005.

It irks me no end when people infer that this club is run as a boys club. It is clearly not as everyone has a chance to have their say about how they beleive they can get the best out of themselves individually and as a team.

In case you have not noticed this method has been adopted by Geelong and now the Western Bulldogs and from all available feedback looks to be extremely succesfull if the club in question is able to have everyone accept the structure.

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When did Schaubs go on record to say that he couldn't play back to back games? I heard he was quite dissapointed with the way things went in 2005 as far as the selection table.

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When did Schaubs go on record to say that he couldn't play back to back games? I heard he was quite dissapointed with the way things went in 2005 as far as the selection table.

He was open about it at the dinner after the grand final when he talked to us.

We specfically said to him that we would have loved to see him out there and he said he wanted to, but it was never going to be due the problems he had with his legs.

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Gotcha. I certainly heard otherwise.