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  • Donners
    On the Rookie List
    • Jan 2003
    • 1061

    #16
    Originally posted by stellation
    I don't understand the displeasure with Everitt, I haven't looked at the stats but I thought his ruckwork was good?
    Five hitouts? Slow, unfit and irrelevant.

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    • Swanner
      On the Rookie List
      • Mar 2006
      • 186

      #17
      Crouch

      Crouch had a great game and should definitley be in the final 22 - more than did enough.

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      • AnnieH
        RWOs Black Sheep
        • Aug 2006
        • 11332

        #18
        Originally posted by Donners
        Five hitouts? Slow, unfit and irrelevant.

        Still, come finals time, I'd prefer his experience.
        Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
        Blessed are the cracked for they are the ones who let in the light.

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        • stellation
          scott names the planets
          • Sep 2003
          • 9718

          #19
          Originally posted by Donners
          Five hitouts? Slow, unfit and irrelevant.
          I hadn't looked at the stats and I must admit that his low numbers suprised me, but I still didn't think he was woeful. I don't think we could guarantee that Currie would walk in and get 5 HOs.
          I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
          We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

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          • johnno
            On the Rookie List
            • Apr 2008
            • 1102

            #20
            Crouch was fantastic. He's been out of the side for such a long time, I forgot how good he was.

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            • ScottH
              It's Goodes to cheer!!
              • Sep 2003
              • 23665

              #21
              Originally posted by stellation
              McVeigh's greatest strength has always been that he is an elite runner, I don't think the same can be said for Moore.
              I know, but I might have to retract that, as I just watched the first half of Sundays game, and McV was magnificent, in the 1st Q especially.

              It is the kicking to a leading player, where I like Moore better than McV, thus the original comment. Whereas McV has proved himself a regular goal kicker this year.

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              • liz
                Veteran
                Site Admin
                • Jan 2003
                • 16761

                #22
                I reckon with Crouch we need to wait and see. His body has let him down several times over the last couple of years. He looked fresh as a daisy on Sunday afternoon and his pace through the middle was a breath of fresh air. But as players get older, they find it harder to get up week after week. He may or may not be able to reproduce that level of performance for the rest of the season.

                And whether he is able to or not will surely go most of the way towards determining whether he puts his hand to play on again next year.

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                • dimelb
                  pr. dim-melb; m not f
                  • Jun 2003
                  • 6889

                  #23
                  Originally posted by liz
                  I reckon with Crouch we need to wait and see. His body has let him down several times over the last couple of years. He looked fresh as a daisy on Sunday afternoon and his pace through the middle was a breath of fresh air. But as players get older, they find it harder to get up week after week. He may or may not be able to reproduce that level of performance for the rest of the season.

                  And whether he is able to or not will surely go most of the way towards determining whether he puts his hand to play on again next year.
                  True that time will tell, but on Sunday's form he is a better proposition than our supposed running players - Tadhg (carrying something other than his shoulders, surely), Malceski (the longer he goes without game time the more reluctant I'd be to bring him in at finals) and Marty (although I'd keep him in).
                  He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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                  • stellation
                    scott names the planets
                    • Sep 2003
                    • 9718

                    #24
                    Originally posted by ScottH
                    I know, but I might have to retract that, as I just watched the first half of Sundays game, and McV was magnificent, in the 1st Q especially.

                    It is the kicking to a leading player, where I like Moore better than McV, thus the original comment. Whereas McV has proved himself a regular goal kicker this year.
                    It's a very valid point, and I completely agree- I think Moore's delivery inside 50 is already close to the best in the team. I'm just thinking of how to get the better value, one of the blights on Davo's game has always been an inability to get to enough stoppage, with McVeigh I think he is close to the opposite and can just about get to every stoppage in a game and I think that is really one of his biggest strengths along the wing. I think he actually is starting to read the play along the wing extremely well too, being paid respect by your direct opponent or not it isn't a fluke to get open on the wing as frequently as he does through a game.
                    I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
                    We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

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                    • smasher
                      On the Rookie List
                      • Jan 2005
                      • 627

                      #25
                      I think McVeigh's day of getting lattitude are over.He'll be heavily tagged from now on I would think.

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                      • NMWBloods
                        Taking Refuge!!
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 15819

                        #26
                        Originally posted by smasher
                        I think McVeigh's day of getting lattitude are over.He'll be heavily tagged from now on I would think.
                        Yep and then he'll face a massive new challenge.
                        Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

                        "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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                        • 2005
                          : IN THE OUTER :
                          • Dec 2007
                          • 604

                          #27
                          Originally posted by NMWBloods
                          Yep and then he'll face a massive new challenge.
                          Love your positive outlook on Macca again Bloods
                          Est 1874
                          SMFC
                          09.18.33.2005

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                          • swansrule100
                            The quarterback
                            • May 2004
                            • 4538

                            #28
                            id go for a back 6 of

                            Barry, C.Bolton, Richards, Kennelly Malceski, Goodes (trying to free him up to roam, not make him an accountable chb)

                            Id like mattner on the wing, he gets lost too far back and he has the ability to create play.

                            Bird on the other wing as he is a good reader of the play, but only young so try and keep him free

                            Kirk in the guts where he belongs

                            Up forward

                            okeefe- why is he down in defence when we cant kick goals
                            hall
                            bevan- where he does his best work imho
                            magic
                            mcveigh- but pushing into the midfield, try to keep the expected tag off.
                            barlow- tall, marks well, kicks pretty well, attacks, belongs in the side

                            then following division of jolly obviously
                            j.bolton
                            jack


                            bench would be grundy- who i like in defence, but needs a set spot one way or the other

                            moore- if he keeps fit id rather go with young guy

                            everitt- cant throw the young rucks to the wolves

                            then i see one spot free for left over midfielders, which could be crouch maybe fosdike if he gets fit, i think fosdike would be ideal, but will he be right to go

                            Players like LRT and playfair etc wouldnt waste my time with.


                            Some minor points, i want goodes and mcveigh to avoid tags but want them roaming around creating play. I want barlow to be drifting down as he is one of the few who look to go long into the forward line.

                            I want to see quick delivery forward and capitalise on the fact Hall is still a decent mark one out as is magic.

                            Id also like to see an end to drifters, like grundy, some of our players are lost on the field.
                            Theres not much left to say

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                            • NMWBloods
                              Taking Refuge!!
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 15819

                              #29
                              Originally posted by 2005
                              Love your positive outlook on Macca again Bloods
                              I love the twisting of meaning!

                              Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

                              "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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                              • smasher
                                On the Rookie List
                                • Jan 2005
                                • 627

                                #30
                                I was checking some stats and came up with the following inside 50's deliveries:
                                ROK 81
                                Bolton J 67
                                Moore 64
                                We do have some players who should have higher numbers coming out of the midfielders.

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