The Malceski Situation

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  • Dogzbody
    On the Rookie List
    • Jul 2008
    • 282

    #16
    I miss the thumping left boot shot at goal from a hand off just outside 50
    "We talked five times. I called him twice, and he called me twice." :confused: :confused: :confused: :D

    Eddie McGuire

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    • liz
      Veteran
      Site Admin
      • Jan 2003
      • 16739

      #17
      Originally posted by jono2707
      I think its worthwhile to also remember that there are people who stand to gain quite a lot from the success of this sort of revolutionary surgery i.e. the doctors who use this new technique. Basically at the time the knee was done, if it was successful the P.R. gained from the operation would make it a very lucrative business for those practitioners using the technique. However if it fails and Malceski needs another op, suddenly the 'miracle cure' become useless and its back to square one for everybody.

      I'm not inferring a conspiracy or anything, but if there is a problem with the knee maybe all concerned have deemed it is better to try to cover up the real reasons behind it???
      Not really. The more balanced press (and that which appears to have some research behind it) indicates that while this operation is new to Australia, it's a technique that has been used for many years in Europe, including amongst sportsmen, with good rates of success.

      Sure, it hasn't been used for as long as more conventional techniques, so there is little or no reliable data on long term impact. And it is possible that the stresses placed on a knee from elite AFL footy are different to those from other sports, especially soccer, where it's been used in Europe.

      But the success or otherwise of Malceski's injury will neither prove nor disprove the approach to be useless, anymore than the handful of players who have complications with the traditional approach prove or disprove that approach to be useless.

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      • NMWBloods
        Taking Refuge!!
        • Jan 2003
        • 15819

        #18
        Dr Larkins made a comment a few weeks ago that he understood that Malceski was having trouble with his knee.
        Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat.

        "[T]here are things that matter more and he's reading and thinking about them: heaven, reincarnation. Life and death are the only things that are truly a matter of life and death. Not football."

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        • royboy42
          Senior Player
          • Apr 2006
          • 2076

          #19
          So female intuition, someone who may or may not know a trainer with inside info or just a wild guess? I'll go with the calf..after all, who knows what I know?

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          • R&WtilIDie
            Blood 4 ever
            • Oct 2007
            • 105

            #20
            Originally posted by Triple B
            Sometimes people get reliable information, but they are not at liberty to broadcast it all over the internet because they'll break the trust/confidence of their source.

            Just maybe Swantastic knows somebody, a trainer at the club perhaps, who has confided to him that Eski is having problems with his knee, ongoing inflamation around the synthetic ligament perhaps, it appears his body is not liking the 'foreign' body in his knee perhaps and there is a real concern that he may need to undergo the full reco, perhaps.

            Perhaps.
            or swantastic is full of poo.

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            • swantastic
              Veterans List
              • Jan 2006
              • 7275

              #21
              Originally posted by liz
              Not really. The more balanced press (and that which appears to have some research behind it) indicates that while this operation is new to Australia, it's a technique that has been used for many years in Europe, including amongst sportsmen, with good rates of success.

              Sure, it hasn't been used for as long as more conventional techniques, so there is little or no reliable data on long term impact. And it is possible that the stresses placed on a knee from elite AFL footy are different to those from other sports, especially soccer, where it's been used in Europe.

              But the success or otherwise of Malceski's injury will neither prove nor disprove the approach to be useless, anymore than the handful of players who have complications with the traditional approach prove or disprove that approach to be useless.
              I watch a lot of Soccer from Europe and some of the injuries that they come back from so quickly amaze me.The stress on Elite AFL players and soccer players is different but not much.They get a lot more ankle and calf injuries IMO than AFL players and are about on par with the knee injuries.

              The whole AFL world is watching Melcho very closely,and if it does prove very successful mark my words every AFL will go this way.

              If it does prove a failure no AFL clubs will take it on board.

              So it will prove over all to the AFL world it is either a success or failure.
              Now this is a thread that i would expect on the ego -centric, wank session that is redandwhiteonline.com...

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              • Legs Akimbo
                Grand Poobah
                • Apr 2005
                • 2809

                #22
                Originally posted by swantastic
                I watch a lot of Soccer from Europe and some of the injuries that they come back from so quickly amaze me.The stress on Elite AFL players and soccer players is different but not much.They get a lot more ankle and calf injuries IMO than AFL players and are about on par with the knee injuries.

                The whole AFL world is watching Melcho very closely,and if it does prove very successful mark my words every AFL will go this way.

                If it does prove a failure no AFL clubs will take it on board.

                So it will prove over all to the AFL world it is either a success or failure.
                What if the results are inconclusive?
                He had observed that people who did lie were, on the whole, more resourceful and ambitious and successful than people who did not lie.

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                • Mattyt
                  On the Rookie List
                  • May 2004
                  • 56

                  #23
                  For what it's worth, in the game against the Saints at the SCG, late in the last quarter I saw Robert Harvey drop his knee into Melchos knee as they were about to contest a ball up, Melcho came straight off from what I remember, and that was what seemed to be the beginning of an injury plaguing him.

                  Did anyone else see the incident I'm talking about?

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                  • Lohengrin
                    On the Rookie List
                    • Jul 2008
                    • 641

                    #24
                    Was that the same incident where Mother Theresa kicked a puppy?

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                    • Mattyt
                      On the Rookie List
                      • May 2004
                      • 56

                      #25
                      Different, still can't belive the bitch got off either, the MRP is a disgrace

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                      • Seagoon
                        rover mower
                        • Jul 2008
                        • 86

                        #26
                        I must admitt that I have been a bit skeptical about the calf injury, and thought that it may have been the knee. But that was just what I suspected and I don;t have any facts to support it.
                        Diabolical, triabolical, quadrabolical...

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                        • Primmy
                          Proud Tragic Swan
                          • Apr 2008
                          • 5970

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Seagoon
                          I must admitt that I have been a bit skeptical about the calf injury, and thought that it may have been the knee. But that was just what I suspected and I don;t have any facts to support it.
                          What has "facts" got to do with it. We are experts, we are! We know whats going on.
                          If you've never jumped from one couch to the other to save yourself from lava then you didn't have a childhood

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                          • connolly
                            Registered User
                            • Aug 2005
                            • 2461

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Seagoon
                            I must admitt that I have been a bit skeptical about the calf injury, and thought that it may have been the knee. But that was just what I suspected and I don;t have any facts to support it.
                            You have got into the swing of things really quickly. Facts never get in the way of a good (Roos) conspiracy on RWO.
                            Bevo bandwagon driver

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                            • thedoc
                              Warming the Bench
                              • Aug 2005
                              • 111

                              #29
                              Originally posted by connolly
                              You have got into the swing of things really quickly. Facts never get in the way of a good (Roos) conspiracy on RWO.
                              the eski looked pretty good this arvo in the ressies. looking forward to anti-roos views....

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                              • Old Royboy
                                Support Staff
                                • Mar 2004
                                • 879

                                #30
                                Well, Mocca did not know what hit him this aternoon. He kicked five snags, mainly beause some hobbling crock kept hitting him lace out with 50 metre bullets. Eski close to BOG in the ressies - provided he pulled up OK, mark down at least one change for next week. Malceski IN.
                                Pay peanuts get monkeys

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