The List

[Bloody Hell]

1 Barry Hall
2 Nick Davis
3 Jarrad McVeigh
4 Ben Mathews
5 Ryan O'Keefe
6 Craig Bolton
7 Luke Brennan
8 Daniel O'Keefe
9 Nick Malceski
10 Peter Everitt
11 Eddie Barlow
12 Nic Fosdike
13 Patrick Veszpremi
14 Craig Bird
15 Keiran Jack
16 Darren Jolly
17 Tadhg Kennelly
18 Jesse White
19 Michael O'Loughlin
20 Luke Ablett
21 Leo Barry
22 Matthew Laidlaw
23 Peter Faulks
24 Jude Bolton
25 Ted Richards
26 Henry Playfair
27 Kristin Thornton
28 Jared Crouch
29 Martin Mattner
30 Lewis Roberts-Thomson
31 Brett Kirk
32 Amon Buchanan
33 Jarred Moore
34 Ryan Brabazon
35 Daniel Currie
36 Tim Schmidt
37 Adam Goodes
38 Brett Meredith
39 Heath Grundy
40 Nick Smith
41 Brendan Murphy
42 Paul Bevan
43 Matthew O'Dwyer
44 Jake Orreal
46 Matthew Beckhams
47 Aaron Bruce
48 Dean Terlich

Coach : Paul Roos

Wholesale changes under Roos???...NEVER!

Anyone like to strike some lines though that list?

[Bloody Hell]

4 Ben Mathews
10 Peter Everitt
21 Leo Barry
26 Henry Playfair
30 Lewis Roberts-Thomson
39 Heath Grundy

Can't comment of the 2's.

[swan_song]

theres probably about 20 that I could do right now, but I'll wait to see who goes voluntarily and who gets a tap on th shoulder.
Oh damn it, I'll start it off with for starters, 4, 7, 10, 17, 20, 21, 26, 28, 29, 30, and 39.

[Robbo]

Delist: Everitt, Mathews, LRT, Barlow, O'Dwyer.

Trade bait: Fosdike, Ablett.

Sorry if this seems harsh. I just think there's some real tough decisions that need to be made. Barlow and O'Dwyer have shown promise but I don't think they will ever be anything more than fringe players.

[hammo]

Retirements: Everitt, Barry, Crouch, Mathews at a minimum. Even Kirk and Hall might surprise.

[doctor swan]

retire - everitt, mathews, barry, crouch?,
trade - davis , ablett , fosdike
delist - grundy, lrt? and maybe 1 or 2 others
now there is a clean out
now for the question of who is available...cousins

[Bloody Hell]

Retirements: Everitt, Barry, Crouch, Mathews at a minimum. Even Kirk and Hall might surprise.

Kirk won't walk away.

All someone needs to say is "The club needs you."

He'll stay...till he's 40.

[Robbo]

Delisting Grundy wouldn't be a good idea IMO. We have a huge problem regarding future KPP prospects, so getting rid of the one who has shown something wouldn't be very smart.

We just need to start playing him in the right position.

[Bob Neil]

No. 1 has to go for the group to move on.
Then there's the obvious - LRT (fun while it lasted), Ablett, Spida (big disappointment), Grundy.

Impressed by efforts of Richards, Crouch, Tadgh, Kirk. You can't shoot those who put their heart into it and have OK+ skills. Vez looks good.

ROK will return to form as will Bolton, Criag.

Bolton, Jude has been great, a few errors but still a big improver.

[Legs Akimbo]

3 Jarrad McVeigh
6 Craig Bolton
9 Nick Malceski
13 Patrick Veszpremi
14 Craig Bird
15 Keiran Jack
16 Darren Jolly
19 Michael O'Loughlin
31 Brett Kirk
37 Adam Goodes
38 Brett Meredith

I've gone the other way. This is the list that I would like to think is non negotiable for 2009. The rest should be playing for their lives right now.

[Robbo]

I hope like hell Daniel O'Keefe can emerge next year. He was our first pick in a draft which was touted as one of the best ever so it would be dissapointing if he didn't become a senior player.

[BSA5]

4 Ben Mathews
10 Peter Everitt
21 Leo Barry
26 Henry Playfair
30 Lewis Roberts-Thomson
39 Heath Grundy

Can't comment of the 2's.

Nononononono.

Playfair after one year? Especially one ended prematurely by injury? Are you serious?

LRT, while not great tonight, particularly early, is going OK. Doing just enough. If he doesn't pick up his game next year, he will be gorn, but for the time being, doing his job.

Heath Grundy?!?! OK, we have Hall, O'Loughlin, Barry, and Everitt all to retire in the next year or two. We are DESPERATE for big men. And you want to delist a promising youngster who is constantly improving and shows grit, determination and good skills, even if he is being played out of position? I was a naysayer like you early this year, but Grundy has showed a lot since coming back. I would love to see him tried out forward, but he is still well in our best 22 in defence. One of our best tonight as well.

[swan_song]

Delisting Grundy wouldn't be a good idea IMO. We have a huge problem regarding future KPP prospects, so getting rid of the one who has shown something wouldn't be very smart.

We just need to start playing him in the right position.

Grundy, alas, is a CP, as is LRT...definite liabilities each time they put on the jersey.

[hammo]

Nononononono.

Playfair after one year? Especially one ended prematurely by injury? Are you serious?

LRT, while not great tonight, particularly early, is going OK. Doing just enough. If he doesn't pick up his game next year, he will be gorn, but for the time being, doing his job.

Heath Grundy?!?! OK, we have Hall, O'Loughlin, Barry, and Everitt all to retire in the next year or two. We are DESPERATE for big men. And you want to delist a promising youngster who is constantly improving and shows grit, determination and good skills, even if he is being played out of position? I was a naysayer like you early this year, but Grundy has showed a lot since coming back. I would love to see him tried out forward, but he is still well in our best 22 in defence. One of our best tonight as well.

Playfair won't be going anywhere. Grundy did show a bit in the second half tonight and for the reasons you say I think he'll stay. Hope he's tried up forward though.

Disagree on LRT though. You say yourself he's doing just enough, well that isn't good enough I'm afraid. He's not up to AFL standard and with defenders now needing to be as much attacking players as defenders he's just lost out there.

[2005]

Hammo you said earlier Reg is a good ACT AFL player yourself.
Reg is a very ordinary footballer at best who was ordinary tonight at best , cheap easy kicks most of the night .

He aint a Forward either , apart from his Debut game he has given when has he provided anything that warrants a spot up there ?