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Back onto the subject; Leo has a hammie late in 2008 as in 2007. Conspiracy theory; it was knee not a hammie but still signs a one year contract. Then in "pre-season" does a knee and has an arthroscope and is listed as out for 3 months. Hang on, can anyone tell me how long a standard arthroscope keeps a player off the park for?
I thought it was the wonder op that gets them back quick. Just a clean up so to speak.
Dalai, as your close relation, the great Chinese detective Harry Who was want to say....."amaissing".Comment
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Scorn was thrown around at the end of last season at any mention of cutting Leo. Well look at us know. Long term I/List in his last season a waste of probably 150/200k and another spot we could have drafted. I think Lewis J is a really good pickup but with Fossie Tadgh and Leo this year's list management has been appalling.Sports do not build character. They reveal it....Heywood Broun
I always turn to the sports pages first, which record people's accomplishments. The front page has nothing but man's failures......Earl WarrenComment
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Scorn was thrown around at the end of last season at any mention of cutting Leo.
I thought he should have gone at the end of 2007.
He is now looking like a boxer who doesn't know when to quit.spriteComment
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The Swans have a very honest culture that outsiders don't really understand, so they would not be scared to tell a player he is no longer required.
At this stage we are missing 3-4 games from player who continues to be a vital cog. The list management issue is the failure to develop promising key talls to give proper support to club champions like Leo.
September will be the time to make an informed judgement, but even then that will be hard to come by on this forum."As a player he simply should not have been able to do the things he did. Leo was a 185cm, 88kg full-back and played on some of the biggest, fastest and best full-forwards of all time, and constantly beat them." Roos.
Leo Barry? you star! We'll miss ya, ''Leapin''.Comment
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And you know this how? I don't think the swans are anymore honest then any other club. I think you might be in love with the crap thats put out in the media, I have know idea myself of the goings on in the club but I reckon public image is onething and reality is something very different. As for your last comment just because you dont agree with a comment dosent make it any less informed than yours.Comment
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By September the blinding obvious that Barry should not have been signed to a new contract will not be a "judgement" but hindsight. We have had two players walk out on contracts, an over the hill defender break down, a midfielder retire due to injury and a blow hasn't been struck. If this is the result of a "culture", as Goering said whenever you hear the word culture reach for your gun.Bevo bandwagon driverComment
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I agree with Liz, Leo's effectiveness against the big forwards very much depends on his athleticism, age and injury have reduced his athletic ability to the extent that his contribution this year could amount to very little.
The crying shame is that Faulks was developing very nicely at fullback in the resssies, his final effort for us was a brilliant beat his man and rebound that led to the Beckmans kick after the siren that won the game. He was cut for his eforts, so instead of carrying on that development at the Swans, he is now plying his trade elsewhere.Pay peanuts get monkeysComment
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Have to say our backline lacks experience without Leo down there - he gives some stability to it and leadership. Whether they play him on the back flank as opposed to full back - not sure. Poor Leo could play above his height and weight a few years ago but think it is unreasonable for Roosey to think he can still do it. I do believe, he is still a required player down back. Thought White was really average on Tredrea; a lot better when he is up forward. Let's hope Leo proves us all wrong.Comment
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I think some perspective needs to be put around White's performance on Tredrea. Yes, he was beaten but:
- Tredrea may be nearer the end of his career than the start but at his prime he was one of - if not the - best power forward going around and he is still a handy player. He is no older than Hall and we all still expect Hall will regularly beat his man.
- Particularly in the second quarter, the ball was coming into the Port forward line at will and there was almost no pressure from the Sydney midfield. Even the best, most experienced key defender will struggle to defend one-on-one in these circumstances because the forward is able to dictate the play and the backman has to react. I really doubt a fit Leo would have been able to do much more on Tredrea than White did with the rest of the team not functioning.
- White is still very experienced. We shouldn't expect him to come in and perform as the best key backs perform. He has to learn and the only way he is going to do it is by playing on players like Tredrea and learning.
I am quite disappointed that Grundy and White got switched at half-time. I thought Grundy looked sharp and productive in the first 5 minutes of the game while the Swans were winning the ball all around the ground. For most of the rest of the first half he had little chance to operate as a forward because the ball was rarely down that end. And when the Swans put on that mini-spurt in the third quarter, he wasn't up there to show what he could add to the forward line. White might have done a couple of useful things but I suspect Grundy would have done just as much, if not more, had he been down there while the Swans were actually attacking. After all, the one goal that White actually scored was created almost totally by ROK's kick that forced White to the right spot.
I am not anti-White as a forward (though I reckon he is more likely to make it as a back in the long term). I just wish they'd make up there minds with the pair of them (White and Grundy) and not switch it halfway through a game that doesn't really matter when most of the rest of the team is non-functioning.Comment
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