Sam Newman's Blast against the Swans

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  • sidswan
    Warming the Bench
    • Oct 2007
    • 206

    #46
    I agree, always seems an anti-swans bias, often the last game previewed, even if its not the last game played. Could the 'bad' feelings be both ways? Not many swans players seem to be guests!

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    • Frosty13
      On the Rookie List
      • Mar 2009
      • 56

      #47
      Originally posted by BigD
      All I can say is

      GET THAT ONE INTO YA SAMMIE BOY!!

      BigD i have a mate who is good mates with Sammy and he said that he watched the game on saturday night because he wanted to see our style of play. He said that he feels a bit silly for his tirade on the footy show, but he feels like maybe Roosy and a few others had been inspired by the spray. I'm not sure how anyone can possibly disagree with Sammy's comments. We played some of the worst football ever seen in the match against the Saints so something had to give.

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      • johnno
        On the Rookie List
        • Apr 2008
        • 1102

        #48
        Originally posted by dimelb
        ..
        I never kept a tally, but it felt like it, and was one of the reasons I gave it away a long time ago. There were, of course, other reasons.
        Once I began to notice it, I deliberately looked out for it and I can tell you it happened a bit too often.

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        • Cheer Squad mbr
          In The Apple Isle
          • Nov 2007
          • 347

          #49
          Originally posted by johnno
          Once I began to notice it, I deliberately looked out for it and I can tell you it happened a bit too often.
          This also happens with some of the other interstate teams.
          "Two cities, One team, Together, Living the Dream."

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          • Robbo
            On the Rookie List
            • May 2007
            • 2946

            #50
            If we won by playing the type of footy that he bagged, then he would have to eat his words.

            But this wasn't the case.

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            • Jewels
              On the Rookie List
              • Oct 2006
              • 3258

              #51
              Originally posted by johnno
              Once I began to notice it, I deliberately looked out for it and I can tell you it happened a bit too often.
              Yes, you are right. I watch the footy show every week (I'm a masochist)
              particularly now it is on 9HD and at a decent time and I would say that nine out of ten times we are either last or close to last and they race through it.
              While on the subject, on "AFL Teams" on Thursday night, when they did our game, they never acknowledged Lewie's 100th, our injuries, our dream team point scorers or anything yet acknowledged Williams 100th and all other teams milestones, injuries etc! It was a disgrace.

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              • CureTheSane
                Carpe Noctem
                • Jan 2003
                • 5032

                #52
                Originally posted by Robbo
                Sam said our negative style of play was pathetic. That's true.

                We played positively last night and moved the ball quickly.

                Sam shouldn't have to eat his words, because we didn't win by playing the style of footy that he was bagging.
                Yep.

                There could be an argument taht Sam inspired the Swans to change their game plan.
                I'm sure that's the way the Footy Show will present it.
                I know if I had publicly complained about the Swans game plan, say on radio, and then they changed it, I'd be ringing back in claiming that it was my influence
                The difference between insanity and genius is measured only in success.

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                • laughingnome
                  Amateur Statsman
                  • Jul 2006
                  • 1624

                  #53
                  Originally posted by CureTheSane
                  Yep.

                  There could be an argument taht Sam inspired the Swans to change their game plan.
                  I'm sure that's the way the Footy Show will present it.
                  I know if I had publicly complained about the Swans game plan, say on radio, and then they changed it, I'd be ringing back in claiming that it was my influence
                  Sounds very Robert walls in 2005.
                  10100111001 ;-)

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                  • goswannie14
                    Leadership Group
                    • Sep 2005
                    • 11166

                    #54
                    Originally posted by sidswan
                    Can someone post the address for Shanes mailbag? Thanks
                    Why, can't you use a computer?
                    Does God believe in Atheists?

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                    • sharp9
                      Senior Player
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 2508

                      #55
                      We beat Richmond by 100 points a couple of years ago...Essendon by 100 points....etc, etc, etc.....what the nuff nuffs in the media don't understand is that the game plan has not changed (certainly not from round one to round two 2009!!) it's just that sometimes we are no good. In particular , when we lose the midfield clearances and contested possessions and tackles we fail to score because our game plan requires getting men free and linking up. When the effort is down we not only lose the contested ball but we (worse) can't get men free when we do have possession....which leads to stuffing around and either turnovers or ball-ups /throw ins downfield. Only a nuff nuff would think that we WANT to play like that!!!!! Lots of ballups and no scoring when we have possession is an indicator that we are playing @@@@@...not an indicator of a boring game plan! The complication (and let's face it almost none of the ex player media commentators can comprehend a two dimensional idea) is that for a long time we were the only side who could still when win the other team were playing better. We did this by sheer effort and force of will to CAUSE stoppages WHEN THE OPPOSITION HAD THE BALL. This is called brilliant and tenacious defence...now perfected by Collingwood, Geelong Hawthorn (last year) and St. Kilda (this year). Idiots opined that the Swans game plan is to cause stoppages......true...but NOT WHEN WE HAVE THE BLOODY BALL!!!!!!!! Our game plan if we are winning the contested ball is to score 8 goals in a quarter.

                      As a rule of thumb, four goals in a quarter is winning football. We have done this on (I think) 5 of 8 quarters this year. I'll take that as an indicator of a healthy game plan going pretty well.

                      To recap - we don't INTEND to score 8 goals to 7 to win a match...we just deserve kudos for all the time we managed to win even though we were being "beaten" by every measure and couldn't manage to score more than 8 goals in an entire game.

                      Terry Wallace (speaking of nuff nuffs) and Mathew Knights both brought on the kids with public mantra of "we're going out there to score 4 goals a quarter". They are the ones with the crap "game plan" if the "game plan" didn't include what to do on the days when the opposition midfield is giving you a belting and you would give your eye teeth for a single stoppage in the middle of the ground.
                      "I'll acknowledge there are more talented teams in the competition but I won't acknowledge that there is a better team in the competition" Paul Roos March 2005

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                      • msb
                        On the Rookie List
                        • Mar 2006
                        • 827

                        #56
                        Originally posted by Donners
                        Don't disagree with him. I enjoyed watching the Swans in the early 90s more than I do now - and that was when we were getting belted.
                        You cannot be serious!

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                        • dimelb
                          pr. dim-melb; m not f
                          • Jun 2003
                          • 6889

                          #57
                          Originally posted by sharp9
                          We beat Richmond by 100 points a couple of years ago...Essendon by 100 points....etc, etc, etc.....what the nuff nuffs in the media don't understand is that the game plan has not changed (certainly not from round one to round two 2009!!) it's just that sometimes we are no good. In particular , when we lose the midfield clearances and contested possessions and tackles we fail to score because our game plan requires getting men free and linking up. When the effort is down we not only lose the contested ball but we (worse) can't get men free when we do have possession....which leads to stuffing around and either turnovers or ball-ups /throw ins downfield. Only a nuff nuff would think that we WANT to play like that!!!!! Lots of ballups and no scoring when we have possession is an indicator that we are playing @@@@@...not an indicator of a boring game plan! The complication (and let's face it almost none of the ex player media commentators can comprehend a two dimensional idea) is that for a long time we were the only side who could still when win the other team were playing better. We did this by sheer effort and force of will to CAUSE stoppages WHEN THE OPPOSITION HAD THE BALL. This is called brilliant and tenacious defence...now perfected by Collingwood, Geelong Hawthorn (last year) and St. Kilda (this year). Idiots opined that the Swans game plan is to cause stoppages......true...but NOT WHEN WE HAVE THE BLOODY BALL!!!!!!!! Our game plan if we are winning the contested ball is to score 8 goals in a quarter.

                          As a rule of thumb, four goals in a quarter is winning football. We have done this on (I think) 5 of 8 quarters this year. I'll take that as an indicator of a healthy game plan going pretty well.

                          To recap - we don't INTEND to score 8 goals to 7 to win a match...we just deserve kudos for all the time we managed to win even though we were being "beaten" by every measure and couldn't manage to score more than 8 goals in an entire game.

                          Terry Wallace (speaking of nuff nuffs) and Mathew Knights both brought on the kids with public mantra of "we're going out there to score 4 goals a quarter". They are the ones with the crap "game plan" if the "game plan" didn't include what to do on the days when the opposition midfield is giving you a belting and you would give your eye teeth for a single stoppage in the middle of the ground.
                          Thoughtful post, and well said.
                          He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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                          • Cheer Squad mbr
                            In The Apple Isle
                            • Nov 2007
                            • 347

                            #58
                            Originally posted by Jewels
                            Yes, you are right. I watch the footy show every week (I'm a masochist)
                            particularly now it is on 9HD and at a decent time and I would say that nine out of ten times we are either last or close to last and they race through it.
                            While on the subject, on "AFL Teams" on Thursday night, when they did our game, they never acknowledged Lewie's 100th, our injuries, our dream team point scorers or anything yet acknowledged Williams 100th and all other teams milestones, injuries etc! It was a disgrace.
                            Sounds disgraceful, doesn't it!
                            "Two cities, One team, Together, Living the Dream."

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                            • Mr Magoo
                              Senior Player
                              • May 2008
                              • 1255

                              #59
                              If you want a more balanced footy show then watch the Marngook Footy show (if you get foxtel). Much better analysis , none of the rubbish that the footy show serves up and balanced commentary by a group of experienced footballers without a gripe.

                              They dont hide the fact they might barrack for a particular team but also they dont let this get in the way of a good discussion.

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                              • Jewels
                                On the Rookie List
                                • Oct 2006
                                • 3258

                                #60
                                Originally posted by Mr Magoo
                                If you want a more balanced footy show then watch the Marngook Footy show (if you get foxtel). Much better analysis , none of the rubbish that the footy show serves up and balanced commentary by a group of experienced footballers without a gripe.

                                They dont hide the fact they might barrack for a particular team but also they dont let this get in the way of a good discussion.
                                Yep, that is far and away the best footy show on TV.

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