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  • liz
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    Site Admin
    • Jan 2003
    • 16763

    #31
    Originally posted by Playsmart
    If he can do what Goodes did against the Hawk with spectacular marks & score, it can demoralise any teams at any time of a game.
    Hall doesn't have the natural vertical leap of Goodes. He takes the odd semi-speccy when he gets his timing absolutely right, gets a sweet ride on the back of an opponent and gets a foot or so off the ground.

    Goodes has the best vertical leap in our team by some margin - of the established players anyway: White might be able to give him a run for his money. When he gets a ride on another player's back, it is usually incidental to his leap - ie he doesn' really need it.

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    • dimelb
      pr. dim-melb; m not f
      • Jun 2003
      • 6889

      #32
      Originally posted by liz
      Hall doesn't have the natural vertical leap of Goodes. He takes the odd semi-speccy when he gets his timing absolutely right, gets a sweet ride on the back of an opponent and gets a foot or so off the ground.

      Goodes has the best vertical leap in our team by some margin - of the established players anyway: White might be able to give him a run for his money. When he gets a ride on another player's back, it is usually incidental to his leap - ie he doesn' really need it.
      Right about Goodes - will never forget an outstanding jump that secured the ball and left Jonathan Brown flat on his face, I think at the Gabba. Baz is better on a lead, and can do his own crumbing really well for such a big man. But I think he needs to forget about the umps' benevolence because it ain't gonna happen, just get on with what he does best.
      He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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      • chammond
        • Jan 2003
        • 1368

        #33
        Originally posted by liz
        Goodes has the best vertical leap in our team by some margin
        That's why he was an All-Australian ruckman . . . he could hang off the contest and still out-jump even the tallest opponent. And also why his opponents ultimately resorted to the odd dirty tactic to take him out of the contest.

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        • Playsmart
          On the Rookie List
          • Mar 2009
          • 64

          #34
          Hall cant jump?

          Originally posted by liz
          Hall doesn't have the natural vertical leap of Goodes. He takes the odd semi-speccy when he gets his timing absolutely right, gets a sweet ride on the back of an opponent and gets a foot or so off the ground.

          Goodes has the best vertical leap in our team by some margin - of the established players anyway: White might be able to give him a run for his money. When he gets a ride on another player's back, it is usually incidental to his leap - ie he doesn' really need it.
          If hall doesn't want to do the "Goodes riding on opponent's back Vs hawk jump" then he is more suited to be half-forward unless the opponents play/coach allowed him to go side-by-side with their player, pushing/shoving each other out legitimately when the ball comes in. To a weaker opponent, Hall does this very well as shown in the Vs Hawk case and against other teams weaker defence.

          If this dont work, it is the case of a clear failure of the coaches if they perservere with Hall as full forward for longer periods in a game as it had happened far too often before in many games, unable to take the grab due to lack of vertical leap (per Liz's comments), wasting opportunities up forward.

          It would be much more to Halls advantage if he can add to this "riding on opponents' back to give attack more multi-dimensional. It is never to late for him, a highly paid professional, to learn it and use it at a critical time of the game. He can lift his team with this kind of grab and more often, the goal eventuates as the grab can be often at/near goal square.

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          • goswannie14
            Leadership Group
            • Sep 2005
            • 11166

            #35
            Originally posted by Playsmart
            If hall doesn't want to do the "Goodes riding on opponent's back Vs hawk jump" then he is more suited to be half-forward unless the opponents play/coach allowed him to go side-by-side with their player, pushing/shoving each other out legitimately when the ball comes in. To a weaker opponent, Hall does this very well as shown in the Vs Hawk case and against other teams weaker defence.

            If this dont work, it is the case of a clear failure of the coaches if they perservere with Hall as full forward for longer periods in a game as it had happened far too often before in many games, unable to take the grab due to lack of vertical leap (per Liz's comments), wasting opportunities up forward.

            It would be much more to Halls advantage if he can add to this "riding on opponents' back to give attack more multi-dimensional. It is never to late for him, a highly paid professional, to learn it and use it at a critical time of the game. He can lift his team with this kind of grab and more often, the goal eventuates as the grab can be often at/near goal square.
            You've never played football have you?
            Does God believe in Atheists?

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            • Playsmart
              On the Rookie List
              • Mar 2009
              • 64

              #36
              Originally posted by goswannie14
              You've never played football have you?
              Interesting question. Is it so apparent that I dont play foot ball from my comments? what make u ask?

              dont like to deviate from commenting on playing smart football & get personal.

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              • goswannie14
                Leadership Group
                • Sep 2005
                • 11166

                #37
                Originally posted by Playsmart
                Interesting question. Is it so apparent that I dont play foot ball from my comments? what make u ask?

                dont like to deviate from commenting on playing smart football & get personal.
                I wasn't getting personal, I was wondering about it as I read your posts as it appeared that you hadn't.

                The first clue I had was when you called taking a speccie, a tactic.

                The second was calling for commentators to be listened to by the coaching staff during matches.
                Does God believe in Atheists?

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                • Primmy
                  Proud Tragic Swan
                  • Apr 2008
                  • 5970

                  #38
                  I often call for commentators to be listened to by the coaching staff during matches, usually with colourfull bits hanging off my highly insightful observations. So far nothing.
                  If you've never jumped from one couch to the other to save yourself from lava then you didn't have a childhood

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