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  • connolly
    Registered User
    • Aug 2005
    • 2461

    #31
    Originally posted by Lohengrin
    Surely you can do better than that? That is ridiculous.

    Bevan lost contact with his player.
    Watching the ball only he ran toward Williams.
    Williams cleverly moved back toward Bevan and upset Bevan's run, and then turned to mark the ball.
    Bevan, completely outpositioned, grabbed Williams around the neck.

    Terrible defensive play and a blatant free kick.
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    • Lohengrin
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      • Jul 2008
      • 641

      #32
      Originally posted by connolly
      Contact the Seeing Eye Dog Association. They will give you a nice little puppy that can help you cross roads etc. As for "watching" footy try the wireless.
      Just watched it again. Clearly grabbed him around the neck. Clear free kick. No question whatsoever, despite your attempt to deflect through personal insults.

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      • connolly
        Registered User
        • Aug 2005
        • 2461

        #33
        Originally posted by Lohengrin
        Just watched it again. Clearly grabbed him around the neck. Clear free kick. No question whatsoever, despite your attempt to deflect through personal insults.
        It was sympathy. In "watching" the game did you notice the arms, fists and bodies that "grabbed" around Hall's neck? It was technical free in a game where we did not get one such technical free on our forward line.
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        • goswannie14
          Leadership Group
          • Sep 2005
          • 11166

          #34
          Originally posted by Lohengrin
          Just watched it again. Clearly grabbed him around the neck. Clear free kick. No question whatsoever, despite your attempt to deflect through personal insults.
          Agree with you on both points, the free was obvious and the personal attacks this morning are becoming tiring. All because others do not agree with him.
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          • ScottH
            It's Goodes to cheer!!
            • Sep 2003
            • 23665

            #35
            Originally posted by connolly
            Contact the Seeing Eye Dog Association. They will give you a nice little puppy that can help you cross roads etc. As for "watching" footy try the wireless.
            That won't help. It was clearly over the shoulder.
            Even blind freddy could see that.

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            • satchmopugdog
              Bandicoots ears
              • Apr 2004
              • 3691

              #36
              Originally posted by ROK Lobster
              We used to have a player like that.
              But said player didn't have the steel that Williams has....Williams may look laconic but when you sit at the town end of York Park you are quite close to the players at Fullforward and the look in Williams eye would cut through titanium. Said player never had that look and still wasn't as talented as Williams..
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              • connolly
                Registered User
                • Aug 2005
                • 2461

                #37
                Originally posted by ScottH
                That won't help. It was clearly over the shoulder.
                Even blind freddy could see that.
                It was over the shoulder. Bevo had his eyes on the ball and Williams leant into him and started to fall. It was momentary and in the context of the umpiring technical. Grabbing around the neck it was not. But i have to dip my hat to those that have managed to focus on one free kick in a match that was otherwise dominated by Big Beamish and the umpires, high drama and a slashing game by Goodesy. Craig Bolton had an absolute shocker against a great player (was there one occasion when Bolts beat Buddy?) but i guess its not what you do but who who you are in the scapegoat business.
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                • ugg
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                  • Jan 2003
                  • 15970

                  #38
                  You're right connolly, there wasn't one occasion where Bolts beat Buddy. I recall at least TWO.

                  BTW, are all free kicks against Bevan automatically wrong in your book? I thought he did well yesterday, but that free kick to Williams was definitely there.
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                  • ROK Lobster
                    RWO Life Member
                    • Aug 2004
                    • 8658

                    #39
                    I thought Williams out positioned and beat Bevan at that contest. I think that happens, otherwise there would be a lot less goals. Bevo had a standard Bevo day, nothing more or less. An effective spoil at that time may have made a difference to the overall result, maybe not.

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                    • connolly
                      Registered User
                      • Aug 2005
                      • 2461

                      #40
                      Originally posted by ugg
                      You're right connolly, there wasn't one occasion where Bolts beat Buddy. I recall at least TWO.

                      BTW, are all free kicks against Bevan automatically wrong in your book? I thought he did well yesterday, but that free kick to Williams was definitely there.
                      Never said it wasnt a free but it was a technical one, especially in the context of the otherwise let it go (especially on our forward line) interpretations.
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                      • connolly
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                        • Aug 2005
                        • 2461

                        #41
                        Originally posted by ROK Lobster
                        I thought Williams out positioned and beat Bevan at that contest. I think that happens, otherwise there would be a lot less goals. Bevo had a standard Bevo day, nothing more or less. An effective spoil at that time may have made a difference to the overall result, maybe not.
                        Williams did outposition him. Bevo was goalside where he should have been and Williams put him off balance and away from a ball that was falling to his left. Bevo put his hand over his shoulder in attempt to hold his ground.
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                        • Bear
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                          • Feb 2003
                          • 1022

                          #42
                          Originally posted by connolly
                          It was over the shoulder. Bevo had his eyes on the ball and Williams leant into him and started to fall. It was momentary and in the context of the umpiring technical. Grabbing around the neck it was not. But i have to dip my hat to those that have managed to focus on one free kick in a match that was otherwise dominated by Big Beamish and the umpires, high drama and a slashing game by Goodesy. Craig Bolton had an absolute shocker against a great player (was there one occasion when Bolts beat Buddy?) but i guess its not what you do but who who you are in the scapegoat business.
                          42 gave Williams far too much room when the ball was in flight and tried to come in late and... well, not sure what was trying, but his incompetence gifted a goal to Hawthorn at a critical time.

                          If he is going to take the 'come in late' approach he needs to fist the ball, not body him when you are weak one-on-one.

                          He came in late, pannicked and pathetically grabbed his opponent around the neck, turning the momentum of the game.

                          Hall then iced it.
                          "As a player he simply should not have been able to do the things he did. Leo was a 185cm, 88kg full-back and played on some of the biggest, fastest and best full-forwards of all time, and constantly beat them." Roos.
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                          • Lohengrin
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                            • Jul 2008
                            • 641

                            #43
                            Originally posted by connolly
                            Williams did outposition him. Bevo was goalside where he should have been and Williams put him off balance and away from a ball that was falling to his left. Bevo put his hand over his shoulder in attempt to hold his ground.
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                            • Bear
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                              • Feb 2003
                              • 1022

                              #44
                              Another typical piece of decision making by Bevan in the 4th Q deserves attention as well. Something that most would have missed.

                              Just a couple of minutes after his previous Williams shocker, when the ball came into Hawthorn's 50, a pack situation developed and we were 3 on 3 with the flight of the ball.

                              Bevan and Williams were the ground players under the ball, but Bevan decided to leave Williams, back in and try to spoil.

                              Very courageous. Very stupid.

                              He was never going to be able to touch he ball with taller players running with the flight of the ball and easily getting higher. His job is to mind the small crummer (Williams) when the ball hits the ground.

                              Inevitably, the ball hit the ground - Teddy and Bolton did their job.

                              It left Williams as the only ground level player. Luckily the ball did not bounce kindly for Williams and Bevan's team mates saved him and us yet again, cleaning up on the ground and doing Bevan's job as well.

                              Unfortunately as I have pointed out many times, Bevan cannot do what good defenders do - watch the ball and cover his opponent at the same time.

                              It was so nearly 2 goals in 2 minutes to Bevan. But luck and his team mates saved him.
                              "As a player he simply should not have been able to do the things he did. Leo was a 185cm, 88kg full-back and played on some of the biggest, fastest and best full-forwards of all time, and constantly beat them." Roos.
                              Leo Barry? you star! We'll miss ya, ''Leapin''.

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                              • stellation
                                scott names the planets
                                • Sep 2003
                                • 9721

                                #45
                                Originally posted by connolly
                                Williams did outposition him. Bevo was goalside where he should have been and Williams put him off balance and away from a ball that was falling to his left. Bevo put his hand over his shoulder in attempt to hold his ground.
                                Williams is a good player and a tough matchup for most teams, I think that gets forgotten at times with the (understandable) focus on their other forwards.
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