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  • ugg
    Can you feel it?
    Site Admin
    • Jan 2003
    • 15970

    #16
    While we're (still) waiting on the match report on the Swans website, I'd just like to note that Dan Hannebery played in the TAC Cup yesterday, his first appearance of the season. He kicked one goal and was amongst the best in Oakleigh's 86 point loss to Sandringham

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    • giant
      Veterans List
      • Mar 2005
      • 4731

      #17
      Originally posted by Robbo
      If you went back and watched Buchanan in 2005 and 2006 then watched him today you wouldn't believe it. Massive decline in output.
      Sad but true - if it was ever a case of "Schneider or Monty?", then we got that one horribly wrong I'm afraid. One of my faves when he's playing well, we see too little of it these days.

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      • Robbo
        On the Rookie List
        • May 2007
        • 2946

        #18
        I thought about that too. Schneider is in another class.

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        • DST
          The voice of reason!
          • Jan 2003
          • 2705

          #19
          Originally posted by giant
          Sad but true - if it was ever a case of "Schneider or Monty?", then we got that one horribly wrong I'm afraid. One of my faves when he's playing well, we see too little of it these days.
          Never was, the Saints had enough midfielders and we had enough replacements in Moore and Vezpremi to let Schiender go.

          The good Monty is needed in the midfield, we are failing to see this at present but he is a midfielder not a small forward.

          DST
          "Looking forward to a rebuilt, new, fast and exciting Swans model in 2010"

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          • Bear
            Best and Fairest
            • Feb 2003
            • 1022

            #20
            Originally posted by giant
            Sad but true - if it was ever a case of "Schneider or Monty?", then we got that one horribly wrong I'm afraid. One of my faves when he's playing well, we see too little of it these days.
            No it wasn't. Lyon was never interested in Buchanan.
            "As a player he simply should not have been able to do the things he did. Leo was a 185cm, 88kg full-back and played on some of the biggest, fastest and best full-forwards of all time, and constantly beat them." Roos.
            Leo Barry? you star! We'll miss ya, ''Leapin''.

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            • liz
              Veteran
              Site Admin
              • Jan 2003
              • 16773

              #21
              Originally posted by Bear
              No it wasn't. Lyon was never interested in Buchanan.
              Not sure how any of us could possibly know that - not unless you have "inside information".

              More to the point, we don't know how the change of club has affected Schneider and/or whether a similar change of environment might have changed Buchanan.

              Also (and more as a response to Giant), as was pointed out a week or two ago, Schneider has hardly turned into a potential Brownlow medallist. He's played a couple of excellent games, especially in recent weeks, but he played many excellent games for us over the years he was on our list. His issue was doing it consistently, plus the fact that the gap between his good and bad was too great. He was little more than so-so for most of last season, but is currently contributing well in one of the two stand-out teams in the comp. It is a lot easier for a middle of the road player to look fantastic in a top team than it is in a middling team.

              (And I'm saying this as someone who was a big Schneider fan and was very disappointed when he was traded.)

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              • dimelb
                pr. dim-melb; m not f
                • Jun 2003
                • 6889

                #22
                Originally posted by DST
                ... The good Monty is needed in the midfield, we are failing to see this at present but he is a midfielder not a small forward.

                DST
                I agree. I want to see him under the ruck. Let Vesz and Moore do the small forward stuff. Or Bevan occasionally.
                He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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                • reigning premier
                  Suspended by the MRP
                  • Sep 2006
                  • 4335

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Robbo
                  I thought about that too. Schneider is in another class.
                  Yeah. Rides the "special bus" to that class too.....

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                  • The Big Cat
                    On the veteran's list
                    • Apr 2006
                    • 2356

                    #24
                    My "inside info" is that Schneider was not good at accepting the criticism from his teammates and thus went outside the accepted values of the playing group.
                    Those who have the greatest power to hurt us are those we love.

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                    • giant
                      Veterans List
                      • Mar 2005
                      • 4731

                      #25
                      Originally posted by liz
                      Also (and more as a response to Giant), as was pointed out a week or two ago, Schneider has hardly turned into a potential Brownlow medallist. He's played a couple of excellent games, especially in recent weeks, but he played many excellent games for us over the years he was on our list. His issue was doing it consistently, plus the fact that the gap between his good and bad was too great. He was little more than so-so for most of last season, but is currently contributing well in one of the two stand-out teams in the comp. It is a lot easier for a middle of the road player to look fantastic in a top team than it is in a middling team.

                      (And I'm saying this as someone who was a big Schneider fan and was very disappointed when he was traded.)
                      I think the bold is the key point for Scheids right now. Still doesn't detract from the fact that Monty now finds himself in the dreaded "mid-tier" that will be under constant scrutiny if the Pies & Crows games don't fall our way.

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                      • Pace To Burn
                        On the Rookie List
                        • Jul 2007
                        • 748

                        #26
                        Originally posted by liz
                        Not sure how any of us could possibly know that - not unless you have "inside information".

                        More to the point, we don't know how the change of club has affected Schneider and/or whether a similar change of environment might have changed Buchanan.

                        Also (and more as a response to Giant), as was pointed out a week or two ago, Schneider has hardly turned into a potential Brownlow medallist. He's played a couple of excellent games, especially in recent weeks, but he played many excellent games for us over the years he was on our list. His issue was doing it consistently, plus the fact that the gap between his good and bad was too great. He was little more than so-so for most of last season, but is currently contributing well in one of the two stand-out teams in the comp. It is a lot easier for a middle of the road player to look fantastic in a top team than it is in a middling team.

                        (And I'm saying this as someone who was a big Schneider fan and was very disappointed when he was traded.)
                        He looks a hell of alot trimmer to me, could have something to do with him getting back into form
                        The edge is not the limit, It's just the starting point...

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